SAV Iron Mountain

[lightnin4]

Just wondering if anyone has any Iron Mountain calves and how is their disposition?  My Dad bought a January Iron Mountain heifer from the Monarch Farms dispersal in October and she's (for lack of a better term)"looney".  She' s been hand fed since we  got her.  She comes up with the other calves in my barn lot and goes into a 10x10 pen to eat twice a day.  I haven't tried to halter break her and probably won't.  She's not mean, she just doesn't want to be touched.  She went into full panic mode this morning when I walked into her pen and tried to pour dewormer on her.  Is this normal behavior for Iron Mountain calves or did I just get lucky? ;D

 

[Show Dad]

What few I have seen all have had disposition problems.

 

[coyote]

I see some similarities in this thread to the defect thread that got removed.  Maybe the title should of been "ANYONE ELSE HAVING DISPOSITION PROBLEMS WITH A CERTAIN ANGUS BULL".  I suppose SteerPlanet may of crashed with all the response. 

 

[Show Dad]

What few I have seen all have had disposition problems.

You're right. I should have run this statement by my lawyer and attached a disclaimer. I apologize for the oversight and will now correct it.

DISCLAIMER:I in no way meant to describe the aforementioned over promoted Angus bull as having an attitude that would be detrimental to showing his offspring by a junior exhibitor. But that his offspring may have one or more of the following possible depositional side effects to said exhibitor; loss of teeth, multiple broken bones, rope burns, loss of control in confined spaces such as show rings and the propensity to suddenly shout swear words (this can sometimes lead to a misdiagnosis of turrets syndrome).
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[bluffcountrycattle]

What few I have seen all have had disposition problems.

You're right. I should have run this statement by my lawyer and attached a disclaimer. I apologize for the oversight and will now correct it.

DISCLAIMER:I in no way meant to describe the aforementioned over promoted Angus bull as having an attitude that would be detrimental to showing his offspring by a junior exhibitor. But that his offspring may have one or more of the following possible depositional side effects to said exhibitor; loss of teeth, multiple broken bones, rope burns, loss of control in confined spaces such as show rings and the propensity to suddenly shout swear words (this can sometimes lead to a misdiagnosis of turrets syndrome).
<alien>

Now that's funny!!  And so true!!  On a side note, I've heard similar bad experiences with the Iron Mountain cattle, but have not used him personally.

 

[lightnin4]

I'm not knocking the bull.  I just wondered if his calves were goofy in general.  She's a beautiful heifer and looks like she will make a good cow down the road.  She wasn't bought as a junior project, so I've got no problems with her not being halter broke.  A little goofiness I can deal with, as long as they're not mean. (lol)

 

[cdncowboy]

Been around a few, working one of the owners sale.  Wouldn't say they are any worse than most Angus cattle.

 

[lightnin4]

Looked up his Docility EPD just for fun.  He's a +9 with .31 acc.  Breed ranges from +42 down to -41.

 

[husker1]

I realize it's a little removed, but we have a sister to Iron Mountain's dam.  She's plenty easy going and fine to work with.  She's a big, ole girl! Heard good things about the Iron Mountains from the guy here clipping today...nothing negative.

 

[cowsrcuddly]

Another Angus breeder recommended using him to me.  They didn't say anything bad about the disposition of their calves (and I would think they would have mentioned it if they had run into problems).  They said that the Iron Mountain calves were very stylish and maintained some frame.
SD-- where have you seen these "hot" calves at?  So you wouldn't recommend that I try him on any of my cows?  EXAR Pit Boss and his son, R&C Pit Boss 8500 sure gives us docile calves.  Put halters on our calves yesterday for the first time, and today I could pull on their lead ropes and they would come along without too much fight.  Halter breaking will be so nice this year. (or maybe it's the weather!!!) (clapping) ;D ;D

 

[Show Dad]

Hey even EXT had docile daughters. Just saying it might be prudent to use him on gentle cows. 

 

[nate53]

Looked up his Docility EPD just for fun.  He's a +9 with .31 acc.  Breed ranges from +42 down to -41.

So he's breed average for docility.  I once saw a -21 for docility bull (he was a big pet, halter broke full grown, ABS owned half of him), some of his calves are pets and  some are quite aggressive when you get them in a pen by themselves (non cookie cutter).   If you want cookie cutter for docility I would get to at least 20+ and breed to a like animal or a shorthorn or????

 

[rtmcc]

A friend of ours bought a nice Iron Mountain heifer for his sister to show.  They brought her home and she cleared out the barn the first few days.  After weeks of hard work and patience they discovered she was manageable with males but hated females!  They did show her as a calf this fall and she did fine, as long as no females were involved.  Beautiful heifer otherwise.  Just keeps you on the edge all the time.

She was out of an Objective cow so she was getting a double dose of the nasties.

Ron

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[cowboybecoachin]

No offense to the
numbers" people, but has Objective ever had a really good
show heifer that won anything?

 

[JJKnudsen]

We have a Iron Mountain were showing this year. She is a big framed huge bodied heifer. She was one of the hardest heifers for me to break. They do have a mind of their own. Still at times she gets a little touchy and gets a little nervous if you get her to worked up.

 

[rtmcc]

No offense to the
numbers" people, but has Objective ever had a really good
show heifer that won anything?

No he hasn't.  This IM calf out of the Objective daughter is pretty good but a little finer boned like her momma than you would like.  Otherwise he added the thickness and rib that she needed.  Just no fun to work with.