Cut the BS said:
jody do you breed border collies?
[/quote]border collies make the best herding dogs by far in my opinion. It looks like you have some nice ones.
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We've also been involved with Blue Heelers over the years. Actually one of the best prospects I have had, was 1/2 border; 1/2 heeler. Awesome pup, great ambition... but couldn't break him of chasing cars.. ended up killing him. O well, would have happened someday anyways.
I had debated breeding our 3 y.o. female to a heeler, from the standpoint of needing her to be more aggressive and calmer this spring... Which would have happened, had I not stumbled across this male pup this spring while shearing for a Southdown guy. This pup came from more cattle working lines, that I had seen work in the past. His maternal grandsire was a $10,000 dog, which I had seen sent out into a field of standing corn- to bring up a group of western, non dog broke calves up.
I love the border collies, for their smarts- will to work- and talent. Most good pups, know what to do, before they've ever been through training. In most every case- the owner actually needs the training to accompany the dog, IMO.
This spring- after daylight gets long enough after I get home from work to actually do something... I plan to begin the training process on this one year old pup- my ideal goal is to be able to create a team of dogs, that can be sent out together to bring both kinds of stock home in fashion. Ideally, if that works out, I may try to again locate and train a heeler to work as a trio... We'll see- that's probably 5 years down the road though.
ETA- it's extremely tough for me to be able to get a dog who is rough and tough enough to work with the cows, yet timid and athletic enough to work the sheep. It seems as if all, are one track minded... I'm hoping that with more experience under the dog's belt, and with two of them working together (one of each kind)-- I'll better be able to create that tandom... But, that's also why I'd like to have a heeler on board... something rough enough to get some respect built back up b/w dog and stock.
Something like this maybe
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw
[/quote]that is really cool! I got that video in an email one time. That's amazing! A lot of effort was put into that