Shauf Angus Valley Sale ( SAV)

[justintime]

I am presently on my way home, from delivering cattle and attending the Iowa Beef Expo. On my way down on Sunday, I happened to run into some Angus neighbours who had attended the Shauf sale in North Dakota. I may not be exact with the sale averages, as I am just going from what they told me. 500 bulls averaged $7700. 200 females averaged $6200. Sale gross over $4.5 Million. 6 bulls sold over $100,000 with 3 of these over $150,000. An unregistered bull sold for $15,700. My neighbours said there was so many people there that people who wanted to bid on an animal, but could not get into the sale barn, had to use their cell phones and phone someone who was inside and have them bid for them.

I could use a couple sales like this a year!

( By the way, what on earth did you folks do to disturb the weather gods? I have never seen as much snow as you have in my life! On this trip, I saw more cars, trusck, SUVs and semis upside down or on their sides than all I have seen in my entire life..... and I did not think the roads were very bad! )

 

[the angus111]

Grant, what a program!and boy we could all use sales like that.there is some money still out there.my hats off to them,their genetics are really making a impact on the breed.Rusty

 

[rtmcc]

Heck, our outfit could live off the commission check for a couple years.
  Kelly has done a great job and I think this sale helps confirm that the Angus world is ready to get back to breeding Angus cattle that perform, make great cows ... and are fun to look at.  Now isn't that an interesting concept!  LOL

Ron

 

[justintime]

I noticed that almost every bull in the sale had 200 day wts of  950 +. Many with 200 day wts in the  1020-1050 lb range. YW EPDs of + 140-150 seem to be the norm. Milk EPDs of+ 30 as well. Are these kinds of numbers normal in the Angus deal?  Especially the weaning data.... pretty phenominal!

 

[the angus111]

Grant,I cant speak for anyone else,but we have a March 004 heifer that weighed 921 in J anuary.the cattle have a ton of performance.you know the standard goes up with the breed every year.I remember just 2 years ago if we had anything wean over 700 ,we thought we had something.heck your shortie heifer weighed 1100 at 10 MONTHS.THATS NOT BAD!!!Rusty

 

[PRO]

I think that their program is top notch, and I may very well use one or two of their bulls this year.  But those bulls are fed hard.....I would be hesitant to buy one because I could never replicate the kind of feed they have up there.  I think they had some trouble getting a bull or two to freeze a couple years ago in part because they were too fat.   The angus breed is motivated by numbers and they are definitely the king of numbers.  But they also manage to make very good looking angus cattle.....of course fat is usually beautiful.

 

[Bone2011]

I think that thier program is top notch, and I may very well use one or two of their bulls this year.  But those bulls are fed hard.....I would be hesitant to buy one because I could never replicate the kind of feed they have up there.  I think they had some trouble getting a bull or two to freeze a couple years ago in part because they were too fat.   The angus breed is motivated by numbers and they are definitely the king of numbers.  But they also manage to make very good looking angus cattle.....of course fat is usually beautiful.

I could agree completely with that statement. Part of it is really good management and quality cattle with extremely good genetics, and the other part is a full feedbunk.

 

[the angus111]

I WONDER SOMETIMES HOW EASY KEEPING  THEY ARE.HERE IN GODS COUNTRY, CATTLE SURVIVE ON TUMBLEWEEDS AND DIRT.RUSTY

 

[Bone2011]

You know I was wondering the same thing.

 

[Cattledog]

I've dealt with some Net Worths and let me tell you they aren't fun to feed when you're trying to show them.  You basically have to starve them and give them nothing but filler(makes them a little grouchy).  They are trully easy doing cattle!  I can't attest for alot of others but Bismark is the same way. 

 

[MFJ338]

I've been to schaff sale 5 years in a row but missed this year. If you ever have chance to make this sale you not only will  be impressed with the cattle the facility's are top notch. I've purchased bulls and females ever year and cattle have done me very well. I live in Upper Peninsula of MI. We don't get the snow that bad but lots of cold and the cattle just perform. All my heifers 205 day wts were 700 and up, and I'm not in real great grass country but these cattle just convert know matter what the contions.  If your selling cattle  by the pound Schaff's bulls won't loose you any money that's for sure. Again if you ever have the chance to attend this operation you be highly impressed. With pen after pen of stout ANGUS BULLS AND attractive females . Also does anyone know what lot 579 bought?  I purchased her King Heifer last year' she just had a BC Lookout bull calf 65#s.

 

[Bone2011]

I've dealt with some Net Worths and let me tell you they aren't fun to feed when you're trying to show them.  You basically have to starve them and give them nothing but filler(makes them a little grouchy).  They are trully easy doing cattle!  I can't attest for alot of others but Bismark is the same way. 

Final Answer's are the same way.

 

[simtal]

I doubt people "living in gods country" spend this kind of money

 

[justintime]

Shauffs ranch is in North Dakota which is close to God's country and it is not high rainfall country. My point was concerning these weaning weights. One bull had a 72 lb BW and an 200 day ww of 1041. Subtract the BW ( 72) from the WW ( 1041) and you have an average gain of 4.85 lb/ day.... and that is every day it has drawn a breath. Anyone who has fed a pen of bulls knows that they do not gain evenly through any period of time, which is why averages over a test period are important. This bull would probably have had gains between 3.5 and 7 lb/ day to average 4.85 / day. The Schaff program is legendary and I take my hat off to their success. I just wonder what their secret is to keep these bulls sound and producing high quality semen while gaining like this.

 

[thats funny]

Here are some of the results.  Hope you can get the site.                  http://cattleseller.com/articles/2010/02/14/sale_reports/report97.txt

 

[the angus111]

I doubt people "living in gods country" spend this kind of money

there is people out in gods country with the money,they rather go to the sale barn and buy a high headed knot head and then spend millions on tractors.LIVING IN FARM COUNTRY!Rusty

 

[justintime]

I doubt people "living in gods country" spend this kind of money

there is people out in gods country with the money,they rather go to the sale barn and buy a high headed knot head and then spend millions on tractors.LIVING IN FARM COUNTRY!Rusty

Very good point Rusty. I am always amazed how some people's minds work. I had a guy here looking at bulls, and he thought my price was out of line on a bull calf ( it was under $3000), and he was in the top end of my calf crop. The only reason I priced him in this range was because he had quite a bit of chrome and I thought he would be a little harder to sell. This guy said he couldn't pay this much for a bull calf....To which I am fine with his decision.He is free to make his own decisions, but I do have to question his logic.  Later in our conversation, we moved on to discussing harvest, and he said that they were running 3 JD combines. He said that this was the first year they had had the third combine going and it was quite a change. He said that he almost had to buy the third combine because the dealer offered it to him at $272,000. He said deals like that don't come along every day. A few days later, I drove by a field where this farmer was harvesting. I looked over the 3 combines, 2 semi trailers and trucks, a new tandem grain truck, a 4 wheel drive tractor on a grain cart, a grain bagger which was attached to a new JD front wheel assist tractor, a one ton fuel and repair truck, another new JD tractor with a large flatbed trailer and two large tanks of water complete with a pumping system( just in case there was a fire) and 3 new pickups. I added up an estimated value of close to $2 Million in machinery in one field. Maybe that was why my bull was priced too high!

 

[CAB]

  Grant did you forget to offer to finance the bull?

  I was looking @ Schaff's sire line up & of the bulls that I looked @ for milk EPDs they ranged from 25 to 33. Do they have troubles getting cows to cycle & settle with those kind of milk EPDs?

 

[Bone2011]

You know that is another thing that pushes my buttons, the people that come to buy bulls look say they like them but say they are priced too expensive when two days before went out and bought one that was twice as expensive. Or the people that won't buy one unless you knock the price down 100 bucks. Man that makes me mad. Sorry just had to vent and this was a little off topic.

 

[Bawndoh]

79 Bismarcks $9244
30 Final Answer $10,600
10 Pioneer sons $8,200
33 Heritage sons  $8,401
111 Net Worth sons $6,169
31 Providence sons $11,863

Genex sired results.  Not bad.....not bad at all!  (clapping)