shorthorn advice

[RLS]

I have a neighbor that is selling a couple shorthorn cows and I raise mainly Angus cattle.  The question i have is given these shorthorn reg. numbers 4137263 and 4123353  am I looking at cows that are clubby, maternal, growthy or ?.  Any advice would be appreciated. They appear to have plenty of frame but are a little thin right now.

 

[shortdawg]

These cows are not clubby bred - I would say they were bred to be just good solid females.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

4137263-goes back to steermaker and maine lady twice-and to Smithers Dollar 2 bull along with a ton of Irish breeding-she reminds me of an Illinois version of Okie clubby genetics along with one shot of rodeo-and clark way back. SHE WILL WORK with clubbie IMPROVER base genetics-Nothings Free-clean double bred warhorse-mid continent-Double stuff-Lucky Ralph-Man o war, Rumor has it-Jbs Fringe etcetc  4123352-is less clubby- but has some good beef-and no Ayatolah at all.and also goes back to CSF Optimiser (steermaker-maine lady-full sib to Dextro) -I would breed her the same way. There is alot of old breeding back there maine and beef-and a clubby deal would probably change them. O0

 

[RLS]

thanks for the help.  I will probably pass on these for now.  Thought it might be something that I couldnt pass up.

 

[peachy]

4137263-goes back to steermaker and maine lady twice-and to Smithers Dollar 2 bull along with a ton of Irish breeding-she reminds me of an Illinois version of Okie clubby genetics along with one shot of rodeo-and clark way back. SHE WILL WORK with clubbie IMPROVER base genetics-Nothings Free-clean double bred warhorse-mid continent-Double stuff-Lucky Ralph-Man o war, Rumor has it-Jbs Fringe etcetc  4123352-is less clubby- but has some good beef-and no Ayatolah at all.and also goes back to CSF Optimiser (steermaker-maine lady-full sib to Dextro) -I would breed her the same way. There is alot of old breeding back there maine and beef-and a clubby deal would probably change them. O0

Wheres the dollar 2 bull at in the pedigree, I couldnt find it.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

4137263-goes back to steermaker and maine lady twice-and to Smithers Dollar 2 bull along with a ton of Irish breeding-she reminds me of an Illinois version of Okie clubby genetics along with one shot of rodeo-and clark way back. SHE WILL WORK with clubbie IMPROVER base genetics-Nothings Free-clean double bred warhorse-mid continent-Double stuff-Lucky Ralph-Man o war, Rumor has it-Jbs Fringe etcetc  4123352-is less clubby- but has some good beef-and no Ayatolah at all.and also goes back to CSF Optimiser (steermaker-maine lady-full sib to Dextro) -I would breed her the same way. There is alot of old breeding back there maine and beef-and a clubby deal would probably change them. O0

Wheres the dollar 2 bull at in the pedigree, I couldnt find it.
Its a son or grandson-Highland (smithers part of pedigree)413263 pedigree-if the cattle arent too far gone-they woiud be sleepers- guy looking just doesnt know enuff about them O0

 

[peachy]

4137263-goes back to steermaker and maine lady twice-and to Smithers Dollar 2 bull along with a ton of Irish breeding-she reminds me of an Illinois version of Okie clubby genetics along with one shot of rodeo-and clark way back. SHE WILL WORK with clubbie IMPROVER base genetics-Nothings Free-clean double bred warhorse-mid continent-Double stuff-Lucky Ralph-Man o war, Rumor has it-Jbs Fringe etcetc  4123352-is less clubby- but has some good beef-and no Ayatolah at all.and also goes back to CSF Optimiser (steermaker-maine lady-full sib to Dextro) -I would breed her the same way. There is alot of old breeding back there maine and beef-and a clubby deal would probably change them. O0

Wheres the dollar 2 bull at in the pedigree, I couldnt find it.
Its a son or grandson-Highland (smithers part of pedigree)413263 pedigree-if the cattle arent too far gone-they woiud be sleepers- guy looking just doesnt know enuff about them O0

I found him-to bad they dont make those red and white maines anymore.

 

[kk]

looks like you could start a new line of murray grays

 

[Bulldogg]

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4137263-goes back to steermaker and maine lady twice-and to Smithers Dollar 2 bull along with a ton of Irish breeding-she reminds me of an Illinois version of Okie clubby genetics along with one shot of rodeo-and clark way back. SHE WILL WORK with clubbie IMPROVER base genetics-Nothings Free-clean double bred warhorse-mid continent-Double stuff-Lucky Ralph-Man o war, Rumor has it-Jbs Fringe etcetc  4123352-is less clubby- but has some good beef-and no Ayatolah at all.and also goes back to CSF Optimiser (steermaker-maine lady-full sib to Dextro) -I would breed her the same way. There is alot of old breeding back there maine and beef-and a clubby deal would probably change them. O0

Wheres the dollar 2 bull at in the pedigree, I couldnt find it.
Its a son or grandson-Highland (smithers part of pedigree)413263 pedigree-if the cattle arent too far gone-they woiud be sleepers- guy looking just doesnt know enuff about them O0

I found him-to bad they dont make those red and white maines anymore.

peachy, they do.... We have a really nice red and white maine sires by Stud Muffin out of a Cunia cow.

 

[fullblood]

you can pm xxcc he has those red and white fullbloods maines/three quarter blood shorthorns . or i have some cunia sons that may work Harding's capital gains 179682 or stud muffins sire hm count cunia de epinal 165359

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Fullblood-is that Stud Muffin deal the sire of the fullbloods that won in Texas a while back?-wuts the Bws like?-Got a shorthorn or two left

 

[fullblood]

not sure what cow you are talking about but there was one from Clifford Teets in Penn. had champion  in ft worth count cunia de epinal