Shorthorn sires

[3 Eagles shorthorns]

What shorthorn A.I. sires availble in the U.S., make deep bodied, easy keeping mother cows?

 

[wiseguy]

Saskvalley Imperative 33X. Semen $25/unit no cert fee.

 

[wiseguy]

A couple of his sons also available.

 

[coyote]

Saskvalley Imperative 33X is a good bull.

I have semen in the states on Muridale Jaxson 4A , His mother is a real deep good producing Saskvalley Bonanza daughter.

 

[3 Eagles shorthorns]

They are both good looking bulls. The mother of that bull is about as deep as they make one.

 

[Medium Rare]

I have semen in the states on Muridale Jaxson 4A , His mother is a real deep good producing Saskvalley Bonanza daughter.

I've been thinking about using him on a few cows this spring. What have the birth weights been like? Do you happen to have any progeny pics?

 

[coyote]

We had a few Jaxson calves here, they are coming along good. The calves ave. 95 lb so I wouldn't call him a heifer bull.
Here is a Jaxson bull calf.

 

[3 Eagles shorthorns]

Have you bred any of the Jaxson females back to bonanza?

 

[coyote]

Have you bred any of the Jaxson females back to bonanza?

Yes the bull calf pictured is out of a Bonanza daughter.

 

[Medium Rare]

Have you bred any of the Jaxson females back to bonanza?

Yes the bull calf picture is out of a Bonanza daughter.

I guess everyone is thinking the same thing.

I was considering using him to stack on a Bonanza granddaughter and a cow that goes back to 14k. Cleaning them up with a Bonanza son either way, just wanted to try the shot of both bulls at once. Do you know of any other bulls available in the US that have are Bonanza/14k or 14k/Bonanza??

 

[coyote]

Do you know of any other bulls available in the US that have are Bonanza/14k or 14k/Bonanza??

No I don't.

 

[JTM]

Renegade is siring easy fleshing and depth of rib pretty consistently.
Here is a recent picture of A&T Renegade 124 and a bred heifer sired by him. Along with those traits he also bring maternal calving ease, top 10% marbling and top 40% ribeye area. I like him a lot. 

 

[turning grass into beef]

Saskvalley Ramrod semen is available in the U.S.


Wiseguy; Imperative looks good.  So do his sons.  We have lots full sibling embryos in the tank and 2 full brothers in the yearling pen.  Most likely one or both of them will be in the sale next year.  We walked 3 Ramrod sons and one Ramrod grandson in our pastures this past summer and we have lots of Ramrod daughters in the herd, so we can't use many more Ramrod sons

 

[librarian]

Not to be female chauvinist, but why do we never ask where we can acquire the daughters of great deep bodied etc cows? My idea is that great cows come from great cows and we spin our wheels too much looking for ideal bulls to change type.
Maybe spend that bull money on the kind of cows you want then use their sons for replication.

 

[mbigelow]

Librarian I like your thinking.  It seems that getting large group of theservice great females is difficult as most breeders are small and don't want to give up what they have worked so hard to create.  I think R.N. Reed has something on his website that says start with something close to your ideal and the try to replicate.  I feel like I have may more progress or at least gained a better understanding of my herd by using my own bulls on my cows.

 

[librarian]

Yes, we all know the angst of trying to get breeders to part with good females. But because most Shorthorn breeders have smaller herds they can't keep them all. It's just a slow process to find groups of paternal half sib heifers out of herds with deep genetic predictability bred into the cows. However, I saw a pen full of heifers at YY just like that, all from uniform dams and bred similarly for deep bodies, fertility, disposition and longevity. They are out there in several places. Maybe try Paint Valley. I maintain buying two such females and using bulls related a couple generations back with the desired traits on the dams side is a faster way to multiply the type you want than spending the same money on one super bull and using him on a random assortment of females. The  bull that throws the female type you want got it from his dam and his daughters will only carry 25% of her breeding without line breeding.
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