In the case of not using on heifers, I would agree with Unlimited Power seen a lot out of him, had one of my own that was a stud. They are later maturers than most, but when they take off they are going to be good. Jirl told me to use him on, harder doing cows that needed some softness, and the look, as well as maybe a little straighter of a cow. So that is what I did and it worked very well.