Oh your right ive got a few more old Simmy pics saved for a cloudy day on here ! With simmentals weve been there done that , from the flowered Signal genetics to the coal black Dream Ons ! When i was very young we used to get alot of the grey baldy calves , breed the old yellow n white purebred cows to an Angus bull and thats what you were likely to get. Belive it or not they really didnt make bad calves , thats what still boggles me about this sim X angus deal being so hot right now , we did that 25 years ago !!! The only difference today is they have weeded out the greys and the dilution gene !!!