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Steer Planets National Champ “NCAA FootBall”

  • Florida/Oklahoma Winner

    Votes: 29 61.7%
  • Utah

    Votes: 10 21.3%
  • USC

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Texas

    Votes: 7 14.9%

  • Total voters
    47

F5CHASER

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Wow!!! The Heisman Trophy Winner curse continues.  Congrats to the Gators.  Oklahoma has nothing to be ashamed of they played a heck of a game even though you know that people will still be calling for Stoops' job.
 

shortdawg

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Stoops is a great coach. If we didn't have Coach Richt I would sure love to have him @ UGA.
 

TJ

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Florida looked like they were in an uninspired funk in the 1st half, but once I saw Tebow bouncing around in the 3rd quarter, I knew Oklahoma was in trouble.  To their credit, Oklahoma did answer that 1st 3rd quarter score, but that's about all they did well in the 2nd half. 

It wasn't a blow out, but it was a pretty sound defeat.  Oklahoma only scored 14 points & never had the lead.  The longer the game went on, the more Florida started to outplay them.  The Gators began to pull away in the 3rd quarter & dominated the 4th quarter.  I'm not saying that Oklahoma could never beat Florida, but no better than Oklahoma looked in the second half against the Gators, I'm not so sure that they could win more than maybe 1 out 10 or 15.  Oklahoma is pretty good, but they are not what the Big 12 "lovers" cracked them up to be, nor is their offense all that great.  It's good, but it is not great.   

Yes, stoops is a great coach & that's part of the reason why Oklahoma was able to keep it as close as it was.

S - E - C !!!!
 

farwest

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TJ said:
Florida looked like they were in an uninspired funk in the 1st half, but once I saw Tebow bouncing around in the 3rd quarter, I knew Oklahoma was in trouble.  To their credit, Oklahoma did answer that 1st 3rd quarter score, but that's about all they did well in the 2nd half. 

It wasn't a blow out, but it was a pretty sound defeat.  Oklahoma only scored 14 points & never had the lead.  The longer the game went on, the more Florida started to outplay them.  The Gators began to pull away in the 3rd quarter & dominated the 4th quarter.  I'm not saying that Oklahoma could never beat Florida, but no better than Oklahoma looked in the second half against the Gators, I'm not so sure that they could win more than maybe 1 out 10 or 15.  Oklahoma is pretty good, but they are not what the Big 12 "lovers" cracked them up to be, nor is their offense all that great.  It's good, but it is not great.   

Yes, stoops is a great coach & that's part of the reason why Oklahoma was able to keep it as close as it was.

S - E - C !!!!
It is an honor for me and i'm sure most other folks on here to hear your expert opinion, i'm sure you played the game once at a high level to have such knowledge.
 

TJ

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farwest said:
TJ said:
Florida looked like they were in an uninspired funk in the 1st half, but once I saw Tebow bouncing around in the 3rd quarter, I knew Oklahoma was in trouble.  To their credit, Oklahoma did answer that 1st 3rd quarter score, but that's about all they did well in the 2nd half. 

It wasn't a blow out, but it was a pretty sound defeat.  Oklahoma only scored 14 points & never had the lead.  The longer the game went on, the more Florida started to outplay them.  The Gators began to pull away in the 3rd quarter & dominated the 4th quarter.  I'm not saying that Oklahoma could never beat Florida, but no better than Oklahoma looked in the second half against the Gators, I'm not so sure that they could win more than maybe 1 out 10 or 15.  Oklahoma is pretty good, but they are not what the Big 12 "lovers" cracked them up to be, nor is their offense all that great.  It's good, but it is not great.   

Yes, stoops is a great coach & that's part of the reason why Oklahoma was able to keep it as close as it was.

S - E - C !!!!
It is an honor for me and i'm sure most other folks on here to hear your expert opinion, i'm sure you played the game once at a high level to have such knowledge.

I'm guessing that you are a disappointed Big 12 fan? 

Actually, I did play a decent amount & several years ago I scouted HS players for colleges.  But, that doesn't make me an expert.  Also, if you look at the Steerplanet bowl picks thread... the best record was 22-12 (which is far from perfect) & it wasn't me.  I can be wrong & I will admit when I am!  I'm not an expert, but I'm not a novice either.  I just call it like I see it.  Tonight wasn't the 1st time I'd seen those 2 teams play this year, so I had a pretty good idea about what to expect.  It didn't turn out exactly like I thought it would, but if they all did, the games wouldn't be any fun to watch.  That's the fun of it, you never know until the pads go on.  You never know who is fired up & who isn't.  You never know who is hurt or sick or isn't mentally into the game, etc.                 

I know you don't like my SEC bias, but the truth is, I didn't like the opinion of those who were "so sure" that they Big 12 was all that & a bag of chips this year, when they really weren't.  That's all I heard all year long, was how great the BIG 12 was.   However, now that Florida beat Oklahoma, Ole Miss beat Texas Tech & Texas barely beat Ohio State (whose conference didn't fare well in the bowls), I'm suddenly the bad guy, but it was OK for them to talk all year long.  The bottom line is, if the Big 12 fans can dish it out all year long, they should be able to take it when their teams don't preform on the field when it counts.  If the SEC had stunk it up, I would've admitted that I was wrong, but they didn't (except for Alabama). 

BTW, I hope you start feeling better & I'm sorry that you don't like me.       
 

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I think the sidelines calls to Bradford kept him from getting into the rhythm that has made their offense work all year. Bradford spent more time looking for sideline calls then looking in front of him down the field. Stoop's and his staff were too analytical and smothered all the magic that has made this offense work. They desperately needed to free Bradford up and should have let him make some decisions on his own. It was a case of over kill in the coaching department this night, IMO.
 

farwest

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farwest said:
TJ said:
Florida looked like they were in an uninspired funk in the 1st half, but once I saw Tebow bouncing around in the 3rd quarter, I knew Oklahoma was in trouble.  To their credit, Oklahoma did answer that 1st 3rd quarter score, but that's about all they did well in the 2nd half. 

It wasn't a blow out, but it was a pretty sound defeat.  Oklahoma only scored 14 points & never had the lead.  The longer the game went on, the more Florida started to outplay them.  The Gators began to pull away in the 3rd quarter & dominated the 4th quarter.  I'm not saying that Oklahoma could never beat Florida, but no better than Oklahoma looked in the second half against the Gators, I'm not so sure that they could win more than maybe 1 out 10 or 15.  Oklahoma is pretty good, but they are not what the Big 12 "lovers" cracked them up to be, nor is their offense all that great.  It's good, but it is not great.   

Yes, stoops is a great coach & that's part of the reason why Oklahoma was able to keep it as close as it was.

S - E - C !!!!
It is an honor for me and i'm sure most other folks on here to hear your expert opinion, i'm sure you played the game once at a high level to have such knowledge.
Oh sorry my bad, i had you for one of these 18 year old know alls that was the high school student manager that is always within ear shot every time you go to a college game because of the way you laid yourself out there to become an idiot if stoops scores those other times in the red zone.  Again, had you pictured wrong cause of the way you swagger, but sorry.
 

mike

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TJ said:
Florida looked like they were in an uninspired funk in the 1st half, but once I saw Tebow bouncing around in the 3rd quarter, I knew Oklahoma was in trouble.  To their credit, Oklahoma did answer that 1st 3rd quarter score, but that's about all they did well in the 2nd half. 

It wasn't a blow out, but it was a pretty sound defeat.  Oklahoma only scored 14 points & never had the lead.  The longer the game went on, the more Florida started to outplay them.  The Gators began to pull away in the 3rd quarter & dominated the 4th quarter.  I'm not saying that Oklahoma could never beat Florida, but no better than Oklahoma looked in the second half against the Gators, I'm not so sure that they could win more than maybe 1 out 10 or 15.  Oklahoma is pretty good, but they are not what the Big 12 "lovers" cracked them up to be, nor is their offense all that great.  It's good, but it is not great.   

Yes, stoops is a great coach & that's part of the reason why Oklahoma was able to keep it as close as it was.





Hold on there, if OU scores those 2 times in the first half this would of been a whole different game in the 2nd half, their offense dominated the first half and should of been 21-7 and if the interference would of been cqalled who knows what the score would of been, Tebo is good but if their behind 2 or 3 scores throwing is not his strong point and exspeicialy if their behind, so those errors in the first half killed them, I agree if they played 10 times I think OU wins 6 or 7 times, remeber their starting back was out also.

S - E - C !!!!
 

TJ

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mike said:
TJ said:
Florida looked like they were in an uninspired funk in the 1st half, but once I saw Tebow bouncing around in the 3rd quarter, I knew Oklahoma was in trouble.  To their credit, Oklahoma did answer that 1st 3rd quarter score, but that's about all they did well in the 2nd half. 

It wasn't a blow out, but it was a pretty sound defeat.  Oklahoma only scored 14 points & never had the lead.  The longer the game went on, the more Florida started to outplay them.  The Gators began to pull away in the 3rd quarter & dominated the 4th quarter.  I'm not saying that Oklahoma could never beat Florida, but no better than Oklahoma looked in the second half against the Gators, I'm not so sure that they could win more than maybe 1 out 10 or 15.  Oklahoma is pretty good, but they are not what the Big 12 "lovers" cracked them up to be, nor is their offense all that great.  It's good, but it is not great.   

Yes, stoops is a great coach & that's part of the reason why Oklahoma was able to keep it as close as it was.
Hold on there, if OU scores those 2 times in the first half this would of been a whole different game in the 2nd half, their offense dominated the first half and should of been 21-7 and if the interference would of been called who knows what the score would of been, Tebo is good but if their behind 2 or 3 scores throwing is not his strong point and especialy if their behind, so those errors in the first half killed them, I agree if they played 10 times I think OU wins 6 or 7 times, remeber their starting back was out also.

Someone once said, "if if's & but's were candy & nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas".   What if Tim Tebow hadn't stopped in the middle of the 3rd down play, in the red zone, because some OU fan was blowing a whistle that could be heard on TV?  More points for Florida?  ;) 

Hold on?  You mean like OU's O-line did several times last night?  If holding had been called on OU a few more times, if that dumb excessive celebration call hadn't been made, if that horse collar tackle had been called, if un-sportsman like conduct had been called when the OU player tried to hurt Percy Harvin's ankle after the tackle, if Florida hadn't jumped offsides 2 plays in a row, if Florida hadn't been flagged for un-sportsman like conduct, if Percy Harvin had been 100%, if Murphy hadn't kept cramping up, if Rainey hadn't gotten hurt, if Florida hadn't roughed the punter, if, if, if.  I personally thought the refs favored OU, but I may be a bit biased.  Regardless, none of that stuff matters.  And none of the stuff that you mentioned matters either.

What game were you watching?  It looked like Tebow was passing pretty good in the second half to me?  And the reason OU didn't score was because Florida stopped them, plain & simple.   

Personally, I could care less if OU really could beat Florida 6, 7, 8, or even 9 times out of 10, because they couldn't beat them the 1 time that it counted.  Just like Texas Tech couldn't beat a "middle of the road" SEC team, in Ole Miss.  And OU's starting back may have been out, but Percy Harvin was playing a step slow too.  And OU hurt Florida's Rainey on an illegal horse collar tackle & it looked like they tried to hurt Percy Harvin too.  I wish my team hadn't lost their starting Qb, best RB, top wr, and the 2nd best passer/receiver, several defensive players too, but they did.  It's football & it happens.  We did win our bowl game, though.

The SEC East began the season as the #1 team (Georgia) & ended the season as the #1 team (Florida).

S-E-C!!!  3 straight national championships! 
 

TJ

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farwest said:
farwest said:
TJ said:
Florida looked like they were in an uninspired funk in the 1st half, but once I saw Tebow bouncing around in the 3rd quarter, I knew Oklahoma was in trouble.  To their credit, Oklahoma did answer that 1st 3rd quarter score, but that's about all they did well in the 2nd half. 

It wasn't a blow out, but it was a pretty sound defeat.  Oklahoma only scored 14 points & never had the lead.  The longer the game went on, the more Florida started to outplay them.  The Gators began to pull away in the 3rd quarter & dominated the 4th quarter.  I'm not saying that Oklahoma could never beat Florida, but no better than Oklahoma looked in the second half against the Gators, I'm not so sure that they could win more than maybe 1 out 10 or 15.  Oklahoma is pretty good, but they are not what the Big 12 "lovers" cracked them up to be, nor is their offense all that great.  It's good, but it is not great.   

Yes, stoops is a great coach & that's part of the reason why Oklahoma was able to keep it as close as it was.

S - E - C !!!!
It is an honor for me and i'm sure most other folks on here to hear your expert opinion, i'm sure you played the game once at a high level to have such knowledge.
Oh sorry my bad, i had you for one of these 18 year old know alls that was the high school student manager that is always within ear shot every time you go to a college game because of the way you laid yourself out there to become an idiot if stoops scores those other times in the red zone.  Again, had you pictured wrong cause of the way you swagger, but sorry.

IF Stoops scores?  OK.   ;D   Florida's D dominated in the red zone all night long, no if's about it. 

I admit I did have swagger.  I was very confident.  But, it was because I'd watched Florida & Oklahoma several times. 

I wasn't offended or even that bothered by your post, just figured that your post/s deserved a reply. 
 

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I agree that OK should've turned Bradford loose so he could do his thing - he's great player and will be an awesome pro QB.We could "if" this game to death but the bottom line is FL won and the S.E.C.has the Nat'l Champ for the 3rd year in a row.
 

TJ

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Telos said:
I think the sidelines calls to Bradford kept him from getting into the rhythm that has made their offense work all year. Bradford spent more time looking for sideline calls then looking in front of him down the field. Stoop's and his staff were too analytical and smothered all the magic that has made this offense work. They desperately needed to free Bradford up and should have let him make some decisions on his own. It was a case of over kill in the coaching department this night, IMO.

That's a good point and I wondered about that too.  It did catch Florida off guard several times & kept their D out of rhythm, but you do have to wonder if that hurt OU more than it helped them.    

 

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once again, oklahoma was outcoached.  the d-line would NEVER hold their lanes, and all tebow had to do was float there and gain as there was lots of space between the linebackers and the d-line.  the safety filling up the box only worked on handoffs.  Ok should have kept up with the slants as they found out early their receivers couldn't run with the DB's of florida, and OK should have used their TE over the middle more.  OK should have used  utah's strategy in the first part of the game and not get caught up in trash talking and penalties which disrupted their flow as well as they were "led" by the lack of focus by their all american LT.  another oklahoma joke, and i'm a lifelong fan from the days of no back up strategy from the wishbone with fast linebackers stopping them and forcing fumbles and ok once again, having NO answer.  ok must have more losses in championship games than anyone with a minimum of 10 appearances in the big game.  all in all, a pretty sad performance.
 
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