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Here's what I have: 1-11,000 2-4,000 4-3,250 5-3,750 6-4,000 7-5,000 8-4,000 9-3,750 10-8,000 11-2,750 12-6,750 14-4,500 15-9,000 19-4,000 22-8,000 23-4,000 24-5,250 25-3,000 26-5,800 28-6,000 29-9,000 31-7,500 32-6,500 33-3,750 34-6,000 35-3,250 36 -3,000 37-5,000 38-2,900 I missed a few bulls and watched only a few heifers. 112-6,000 113-5,000 108-3,500 103-3,000
I wish we could sell bulls like that in the states!
I wish we could sell bulls like that in the states!
justintime
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The bulls averaged $5220 and the open heifers averaged $3812. For the third year in a row, we had a blizzard hit and it raged for 3 days just prior to our sale. We were needing snow, but the timing was not great for our sale. We had a good crowd when you consider that many people could not attend as they could not get out of their yards. I could not believe the snow banks in my yard and pens when I got home. There will be many days of moving snow. I am beginning to think that all I need to do to get some moisture is book a sale date!
Most of the bulls again sold to commercial producers and it is great to see them willing to pay decent prices for bulls. The first son of HC Cruiser 67C ( that I posted on SP a few weeks ago) sold for $9000 to a commercial man. The Crooked Post Stockman son sold at $8000 to another commercial man. The lot 1 bull sold for $11,000 and a commercial man chased him to $10,000. He sold to a purebred herd in Alberta. This bull could have helped a lot of herds as he was moderate framed with tremendous thickness and volume. He was born unassisted from a first calf heifer and had a BW of 85 lbs and he weighed 2230 lbs a few days before the sale and would not be 2 years old until April 24th. He had 41 cm testicles and moved like a cat. A leading Charolais breeder was at our sale, and he said if this bull had been white, he would have broke some records.
Beebe, the Saskvalley Pioneer 126P son from the cow you bought in our October sale, sold for $6500 to Saskvalley. He was a tank! Our top open replacement heifer sold for $8500.
All things considered it was a good day!
Most of the bulls again sold to commercial producers and it is great to see them willing to pay decent prices for bulls. The first son of HC Cruiser 67C ( that I posted on SP a few weeks ago) sold for $9000 to a commercial man. The Crooked Post Stockman son sold at $8000 to another commercial man. The lot 1 bull sold for $11,000 and a commercial man chased him to $10,000. He sold to a purebred herd in Alberta. This bull could have helped a lot of herds as he was moderate framed with tremendous thickness and volume. He was born unassisted from a first calf heifer and had a BW of 85 lbs and he weighed 2230 lbs a few days before the sale and would not be 2 years old until April 24th. He had 41 cm testicles and moved like a cat. A leading Charolais breeder was at our sale, and he said if this bull had been white, he would have broke some records.
Beebe, the Saskvalley Pioneer 126P son from the cow you bought in our October sale, sold for $6500 to Saskvalley. He was a tank! Our top open replacement heifer sold for $8500.
All things considered it was a good day!
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kiblercattle
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Congrats JIT. There definitely was some good looking bulls in the sale. I would like to know how you felt about your stockman sired bull? Stockman is a bull that really intrigues me.
It looked to me like a very good sale. Several very interesting bulls that can help a lot of people. Year after year I watch these Canadian sales average at least twice what similar bulls sales average in the states, even considering the exchange rate. (announced for this sale at 20%) 5,200 would be about 4,200 in U.S. funds. There won't be a lot of Shorthorn bull sales around here that average any where close to that in real money. A good share of the Canadian bulls sell to commercial producers. There were some very good bulls at the Iowa Beef Expo and many struggled to get a bid of $1,750. 1 bull sold well at the Minnesota State Sale and the rest were well under their value, in my opinion. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that the Canadian commercial cattle producers, those who sell their calves as feeders, are more than willing to pay up for a good Shorthorn bull because they can get a competitive price for their calves. These cattle end up in basically the same feedlots and grocery stores as our calves, yet colored cattle in the midwest usually don't bring what the black calves do. Why is that? Are the US cattle that much inferior to the Canadian cattle? You couldn't convince me there's much difference unless you want to count what many of you would call the "show" genetics. I doubt seriously if they make up a significant percentage of the US Shorthorn sired feeder calf market. My congratulations to the Canadian Shorthorn breeders on what they do. Please bottle some of it and send it south.
I believe it is the marketing ploy known as Certified Angus Beef. It has been quite a success. I have sold quite a few black calves at a premium over my colored calves even though the black calves had no Angus in them. You know they ended up as CAB. It should be about the meat not the hair. That is part of the reason I am now selling grass fed beef, it is all about the meat.
RyanChandler
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I really liked the roan magnum son-- I had intentions of bidding on him till I was able to confirm the speculative claims I made as far as the way the pictures have been altered. You see below how the resolution of the picture of HC double entry has been reduced to 96 dpi as well as the width and height being distorted via the amateur program, photo shop. For those lacking a reference, an iphone takes pictures in over 300dpi at over 4000 pixels. Now I can’t say for sure whether or not this was done with the picture of the magnum bull, but with similar photo backgrounds I suspect the same individual is responsible for presenting these photos. From the pics, it appears as if there's some very solid bulls in this offering, I guess I just can't help but wonder, if this is the case, why is this level of alteration pursued? I mean I know people will do nearly anything for a dollar but is the consensus that these practices are necessary in order to move bulls?
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Is this where it would be reasonable to call you a liar?justintime said:
coyote
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That bull looked like his picture at the sale in my opinion.
A pretty good bull.
A pretty good bull.
justintime
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-XBAR- said:
I have a feeling that nothing I say is going to satisfy xbar. My photos were taken by a professional cattle photographer. The picture I posted here on SP was reduced in size by myself so that I could attach it to this thread. To my knowledge none of our pictures were photoshopped in any way, except some may have been cropped so that they fit in the sale catalog better. My wife did the sale catalog and she probably does a few dozen sale catalogs each year as well as several Angus and Shorthorn breed magazines. I am certain she did not do anything that is not done in any other publication. The Rocking L photos were taken by a well known Polled Hereford breeder, who also did the photos for several other Hereford and Simmental sales in this area, and he sent the pictures on to my wife and she put them in the sale catalog as they came. The bulls were all videoed as well, and I think the bulls looked better on the video than they did in their pictures. I don't know what your problem is xbar, as I have never lied to you, nor have I ever intentionally mislead you in any way that I know of.
By the way, the commercial man who bought the $8000 Stockman son, has used 5 Major Leroy sons in the past and he told me that they were some of the best bulls he has ever used. The first one he bought is now 10 years old and he says he is sound in every way yet. This guy calves 400 cows on grass and he said he never had any calving issues with them. The bull he purchased this year, is the 23rd bull he has bought from me in the past 15 years. I must have sent all the hard calving Leroy sons to Texas I guess.
RyanChandler
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justintime said:
A little bit of truth amongst the bullshit
mark tenenbaum
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-XBAR- said:
justintime
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Thanks Mark, and everyone else who has contacted me in regards to xbar and his comments on here. I think my reputation is the most valuable thing I have and I can sleep at night knowing that I have not intentionally done anything to make a sale. I stand behind my cattle and always have. I think that is why I have quite a few repeat buyers in our sale. I will stack my reputation again xbar's any day of the week and I am now at an age where I am slowly winding down my career in this business. I wish xbar all the best in his career in this business, but I already know he has a very long road ahead of him. With his attitude, keeping customers is going to be a huge challenge. When I look back over my life, I feel very fortunate that I have been able to do the only thing I ever wanted to do, and that is to raise cattle and specifically Shorthorn breeding stock. My dad bought me my first purebred Shorthorn female when I was 8 years old and I have raised purebred Shorthorns for 60 years now.
Xbar has made some comments here that could see him in a court room explaining himself in front of a judge. I think most everyone can see through him and I am going to leave it at that. I actually feel sorry for people like him, who have chosen to go through life with such a bad attitude.
Xbar has made some comments here that could see him in a court room explaining himself in front of a judge. I think most everyone can see through him and I am going to leave it at that. I actually feel sorry for people like him, who have chosen to go through life with such a bad attitude.
RyanChandler
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mark tenenbaum said:
I am that wrong person, big dawg— and I can’t stand deception. Does this just go over your head? Do you even know what you’re looking at here? I clearly presented the pic details that PROVE the picture has been distorted. It’s a matter of principle: he said the pics hadn’t been, and they have. And then he claims ignorance “to my knowledge....” which is just obscene.
I’m sure he’ll reply with some long winded completely unrelated rosy story in an attempt to deflect from the exhibit at hand -salesman ways can’t be helped- but that fact is he was caught red handed. Plain and simple. Equally ridiculous is we apparently have those on here like toy story Andy who feel as if a bull sale averages high enough, that somehow the lies are then justified. Interesting logic. Let me guess- another salesman?
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justintime
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xbar... you have done a great job of hijacking another thread. What part of this don't you get? That picture was not changed in any way other than it was too big to attach to this thread so I reduced the size so it would attach. Personally, I think the bull was way better than this picture, so if I was smart, I would have got a better picture. I have never edited a picture in my life other than crop it or reduce the size so it will attach easier. You can yap all you want but you are dead wrong! As per usual!
I am done with you now. Steerplanet was never intended for people to make personal attacks and you can rant all you want but I am not responding to you again on this topic. If you have a problem with me, contact me directly, or better yet do it in person. You are a pretty tough guy when you are hiding behind your computer! And I will assure you of one more thing, if you continue to defame me, we may just meet sooner than you think... in a court of law! I am serious when I say that I actually feel sorry for you. I have no idea what your life must be like, when everyone is out to get you!
I am done with you now. Steerplanet was never intended for people to make personal attacks and you can rant all you want but I am not responding to you again on this topic. If you have a problem with me, contact me directly, or better yet do it in person. You are a pretty tough guy when you are hiding behind your computer! And I will assure you of one more thing, if you continue to defame me, we may just meet sooner than you think... in a court of law! I am serious when I say that I actually feel sorry for you. I have no idea what your life must be like, when everyone is out to get you!
You insult every cattleman on this site. Last fall I saw Grants catalog noticed a couple of cows that I thought would help me. I liked the pictures and the description. So a friend and I went to Canada and looked at his sale offering. I found them to be what he said and what I expected. When sale day came we bought them and while they are bigger than I would like they are a tool I can use to do what I want. We did not buy pixels we bought cows, we did our home work and so far we are happy. I can't wait to breed these cows and see the results. I started this thread because I wanted to hear how the sale went and I found that out. I don't care to read about your problems any more. I sincerely think you need some help. You used to have some of the more valuable comments on here but you have lost your way, good luck to you.-XBAR- said:
