Texas State Shorthorn sale

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In what delusional state are  people in where they think its OK to sell/promote animals that could potentially carry genetic defects w/o testing them?? 

How easy would it be for the association to say, "any animals tracing back to a known carrier must be tested unless proven clean by pedigree(sire/dam tested clean) in order to obtain registration" ???

Like I said, I'll have them tested and if they're clean, they're good bc they really are great looking heifers- if they're dirty, I already have 2 people in line wanting to buy em. 

You somewhat answered your own question. As long as people are out there willing to buy them even if they are carriers, then some people won't ever make the effort to or spend the money to have them tested. Some people will gamble. I did a few years ago when I bought a Dble.Vsn dtr of CF Roan Sue & she wasn't tested. I got lucky & she was clean , both ways.

 

[ELBEE]

There's a substantial number of Shorthorn breeders than have stock going back to the Improver lines.  I just did a search and found a large number of the prominent breeders are still using animals with Improver.  Bowman, Saskvalley (Huberdale Mastercharge), Shome, Duis, WHR, Steinke, Matlock(Paramount14P), Handu, Elbee, Vaith Cattle, Jordan Acres... and thats just the breeder that have spent some loot on ad words and are now on the first 2 pages of google.   So all these breeders 'potentially' have th running through their herds?

Deerpark Improver 3rd, and Deerpark Improver have no genetic link. Only thing in common, they were both exported from Ireland and share space on a "Paper". Sadly we probably won't ever know how the Irish cattle fit together. 

 

[ELBEE]

Isn't Improver the sire of Improver 3rd???
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Not according to DNA!

 

[oakview]

Nice to hear verification of what I've been hearing for a while.  I know Improver 3rd's previous owner is glad to know he's not an Improver, at least considering TH, etc.  I doubt if we'll ever really know what several of those bulls are out of.  I still get a chuckle when people claim to have asterisk free cattle that trace to empty pedigrees.