Call Tyler Campbell. 515-689-5262. The Green Stuff and Breakdown are his products. I have yet to hear anyone not like them. Star Lake herfs, Chris Wilson at Trausch's and Mawsons in MO use them and swear by them. I am told Green stuff has nothing in it similar to sheen, its not a knock off or anything close. Its a bunch of weird gunk that mixed together happens to work. Tyler and Tom are just getting started producing and selling. If you want it you better get ahold of Ty and order it because they are not exactly mass producing yet.