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buckeye

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Well after finally get my bull home that I purchased I will give good and bad.. The bull I purchased from Horseshoe Creek Farms is a real nice bull and I am very pleased. Grant seems like a great person to deal with and may buy from him again but will definately reccommend him to others looking to purchase shorthorns. Now the bad, the hauling part which was supposed to be hauled from Mark Howard who me and others talked to and had everything set up. Well come the time when the bulls arrived in Iowa Mark would not returns calls and he still will not so I would not reccommend him to anyone to haul for you. Needless to say from the efforts of Grant and a few of the other guys that were supposed to have their bulls hauled we finally got our animals home. Again I would like to thank Grant for a great bull.
 

justintime

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I am glad to hear you are pleased with the bull as I know he has had a long hard trip and he is probably looking worse right now than at any time in his life. I told you that I felt this bull was in the top 3 or 4 bulls I have ever produced( and he may turn out to be the best one).  I am not sure what happened to Mark Howard. I used him a couple times before to haul cattle and he was great. He kept me updated and I knew what was happening each day he had the cattle I was having shipped. This time was different. I have heard a couple stories about him being caught in some of the heavy rains that hit the SE part of the US and this has caused him to get far behind in his trucking, but a simple phone call to any of us, would have been nice and we probably would have understood the problems he was having. I tried to phone him several times a day for over a week and never got to even leave a message after the first day as his message manager was full. I guess the worst part of this situation was that Mark told me as late as the day I dropped the bulls off in Iowa that he could pick them up within a couple days. When this didn't happen, this became a big problem for us all.

The bull that Buckeye purchased was one of those " wow" calves. He was born on pasture in April, and I will always remember the morning I found him. As I walked towards him, he stood up and I thought to myself " wow !! what do we have here!"  All summer he was a calf that everyone picked out and he did not stop there, as I think every person who walked through our bull test picked him out.

Give him some TLC after his long ordeal and trip and I am sure you will be even more pleased with him in a little while. I am sure he has probably shed his winter hair by now, but he had a haircoat so thick it was hard to pull a comb through it  Thanks for the kind words and keep me posted on how he does.
 

buckeye

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Your welcome, we figured it up today that the bull that we now call "Drifter" was on 6 different trailers to finally make his way to our barn which is how we go his name. and we know that he willl start looking better as he gets settled down after his long journey but he doesnt look bad at all now. He still has his winter coat but is starting to shed some of it. As for Mark I even call his phone 2 days ago and was able to leave a voice message for him and he still didnt call me back, so he had to get all of our messages before since I was able to leave a message now.
 

aj

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How is the Timeline bull coming along. I see he has 5 calves registered with the American Shorthorn Assn. What is the canadian assn web site? Are anymore shares going to be offered on him?
 

aj

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Up to 13 calves in the Canadian system. The Canadian website is an interesting site. Cool.
 

justintime

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aj said:
How is the Timeline bull coming along. I see he has 5 calves registered with the American Shorthorn Assn. What is the canadian assn web site? Are anymore shares going to be offered on him?

aj, Timeline is doing great. For the past two months he has been walking with one of the best sets of Shorthorn cows in Western Canada, at Lyle Bignell's Buffalo Lake herd, at Stettler, AB  Lyle is an outstanding cattleman and he is presently in his second term as President of the Canadian Charolais Association. Lyle was one of the first to get a syndicate share in Timeline, but this is his first time using him as he lost his semen when a tank when dry last year. Lyle and his dad run about 100 Shorthorn, 100 Charolais and 200 commercial cows and it is one of the best run outfits you will find anywhere. If you are ever in Central Alberta, I would recommend you stop at the Bignell's for a visit. They are great people and have great cattle.

The owners who used him last year, report a 100% unassisted calf crop again this year, and so far out of two calf crops, there has only been one assisted birth, that being from a heifer, and it was an easy pull.I do wish there was a pile of dead calves and crippled cows to report, so you could say " I told You so!!" but that is not the case. All calves have also been polled. Some Timeline sons were the top gaining pen over all breeds at a  multi breed test in Alberta. They all had BWs of 90 lbs or less.Personally, I have only had two Timeline calves myself, but that is about to change. I have already implanted 11 Timeline embryos and will be adding some more in the coming weeks. Our only Timeline bull sold for $4850 in our bull sale. He sold to a commercial man who is just raving about this bull. Another commercial producer with 800 cows, has contacted me since the sale, and told me that if I can produce more bulls like this one, he will definitely be interested in purchasing several of them. This commercial producer runs a reputation  no nonsense cow herd, and he is well respected in the beef industry, and he said he has been looking for Shorthorn bulls like this for many years.  I have flushed 3 donors to Timeline so far this year, and plan to flush at least 5 more to him. You may find this hard to believe aj, but I have already had inquiries about Timeline embryos from 4 countries this spring.

So, Timeline is doing great. There is one share available, as one of the syndicate partners passed away and his widow has sold her cows. So if you are interested in this share aj, PM me and we can discuss this further. For you I will make you a special deal!!!
 

buckeye

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Justintime, we will be taking "Drifter" to get collected soon as we have already had 3 area farmers interested in using to breed him to their cattle. We have never promoted a bull but he may be the first. I guess it doesnt hurt to try.
 

justintime

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buckeye, here is my advice. I am pleased that you are collecting this bull, but my advice would be to don't get real crazy and collect a pile of semen. Collect a modest amount at the beginning. Semen collection and storage bills can grow like wildfire and if sales aren't real brisk, it hurts to have to dump some of it to cut the costs. If the bull does catch on, you can always collect some more and by then you will have a much better idea of how he is going to sell. Good luck!
 
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