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knabe

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twc77 said:
Can both sides set their hate threshhold back to zero and maybe start fresh and think off new and improved reasons to loathe the opposite half of the country from where we find ourselves. give it a rest after all, it is Christmas...jeez

maybe we could start fresh with christmas.  that would last about 3  2  1.... visit daily kos for how democrats promote christmas.  i would link it but it's not appropriate for kids.  really, most of the aggressive division comes from the left, after all, they are the party of the community organizer (harrasser).  it's their job.  if they aren't taking, they are receiving what's taken.  talk about an unbeatable coalition.  that's easily 75% if not 80% of the population rather than "romney's" 47%.

where is the left's outrage over google taxes?  no where of course.  think how many people could be helped with 2 billion per year.
 

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I am pretty well fed up with the :posturing,bickering,and petty games on both sides-I dont really have a party-it depends upon the issue-but the aggendas and games involved are doing no service to our country at all.I dont think the wealthy giva a ratts a*&^$##s what happens to our nation-and its a load of bu)&*&%$@^*t that those who make over $250000 per year cant help some-and yes Ive heard every argumant about businesses not being able to hire with a tax change,-and poor J Dunstan Yuppington who made $400000 last year shorting the market while our country slowly goes bankrupt and cant squeeze $8-10000 because of inherent greed to try and create some semblence of recovery.Even though Yuppington would make make more money in an emerging market. PS who do you point the finger at about the lack of consensus for a bill to help stricken farmers? A last minute cliff deal will probably emerge-with both sides exclaiming what heroes they and thier respective parties are:along with childish mudslinging. Anyone who belives that politicians work for the voters best interest,and dont have mutuall cross party agendas-is naive. Its all about the art of the deal. JMO O0
 

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I voted libertarian. I agree the division in this country is one of our biggest problems. We can't agree on anything anymore. The govt is out of control with regulations and spending. Never ending wars. The fed printing money at will. It's disgusting.
 

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I think there is more of a gap between the groups philosophies. Kenedy was a tax cutter.....a what can you you do for your country kinda guy. I think today he would be in the Republican party. I don't think there was much economic philosophy between say Nixon and kennedy. Nixon tried those goofy price controlls. Its all changed because of "entitlements". From farm programs to food stamps......Johnsons war on poverty which ended up being a disaster.
 

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The best tax policy we can go to is a flat tax it treats everyone equal the more you spend the more tax you pay and guess what the wealthy spend more than the middle class so by logistics they would pay more tax. I would think that this would be right up our presidents ally since he wants everyone to be equal, but that is the rub he's not so much interested in it being equal he wants it to punish the most productive in our society and give it to the most unproductive all in the disguise of being equal or fair. The most productive will only be productive as long as there is a benefit for them and as soon as there is no reason to be productive they will stop. This will snow ball and after a while we will all stand around waiting for big brother government to send us our check and then what happens when there is no check? No one is producing anything anymore so there is no income to tax and no money to give to all of us freeloaders. Yes I know this is an extreme example but this is what happens without free interprise and capitolism. It's kind of like going to a cattle show where everyone gets Suprem Champion!

I don't hate Obama I just don't trust him and for that matter what politician can we trust, "NONE"! What really bothers me about him is the infringements of our personal rights, telling us we have to buy medical insurance or be taxed for it, wow since when does he know what best for me and my family?

I will now depart from my soap box.

 

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-XBAR- said:
The more you spend the more tax you pay??? The flat tax is in reference to taxable income.  Interprise??? Really? 

Yes the national sales tax or fair tax!! Do you have a problem with free interprise???
 

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I """""""""HAVE"""""""" to say something here, I can't take it any more. Period.

I could give a rat's hairy BUTT about Obama -- what he stands for, OR what he THINKS is best for this (MY AND OUR)) country.

He, not unlike a few other past presidents, is up THERE for one reason -- to pad his fat billfold for the rest of his sorry life. I - as many of you know - was sent to Viet Nam in 1972 to safe guard our country from the would be potential of hostile take over in the future. What would every one call this current cabinet we now have -- it may not be OBVIOUSLY hostile, but I can promise you all it IS a take over of what we have all grown used to having. I take that damn personal -- so excuse my lack of proffesional language, I tend to go backwoods when I am irritated - and I am past that already! It didn't take me but a couple months to see exactly what I was afraid I was going to see when this fool was first "Elected" (bought and paid for I might add). He snuck in and did exactly what HE wanted, with the cost of the votes in congress and the house already pre-paid.

If any one out there thinks what he is doing is for the betterment of US, please send me your address so I can make sure to have some one throw a rock thru your window so will WAKE UP. I am scared for the first time in many years that the life I fought to protect will not only cease, but will do so from within!!! Tell ya what -- let me know how you (generally speaking) feel about this MAN OF THE YEAR in a couple years. I am almost glad I will most likely not live long enough to see what we will all be like in another 20 years. I might guess and say that almost 90% will be ASSISTED, while the other 10% is taken to the cleaners. And for the record, I don't plan on learning any other language but ENGLISH to be more politicly correct! I could care less if the NEW population likes English or not, it is what WE speak -- or at least did!!

Box now fairly clean -- sorry to all -- but still want to wish EVERY ONE a very MERRY CHRISTMAS -- note I did not say Happy Holidays!

Terry
 

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Cowboy....thank you for your service. It can be argued that there are three classes in the US. There are sheep and wolves and sheep dogs. You are a sheep dog. You sacrificed so people like me can come on here and shoot my mouth off. Thank you.
 

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aj said:
Cowboy....thank you for your service. It can be argued that there are three classes in the US. There are sheep and wolves and sheep dogs. You are a sheep dog. You sacrificed so people like me can come on here and shoot my mouth off. Thank you.

(clapping) (clapping) (clapping) (clapping)

Well said!
 

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Well , thank you for allowing me to vent -- and I do appreciate that AJ. I am almost sorry I have to even entertain this general subject. Trust me folks, I said a heck of allot LESS than I really wanted to  -- but decided I had better at least save a FEW Karma points -- hehehe!!

Thank You -- I very much appreciate knowing that my 18 months in hell was not for nothing. We were NOT allowed to win that conflict, had we been allowed, there would be no problem finding parking spots in Nam -- if you get my drift!!

Let's all hope we can survive this war within -- I know we can win this one too -- but are we going to be allowed to do so????????? SAme deal, different players and different (??) subject matter. I would LOVE to be Pres for one solid month. I figure it might take me about a week to reduce the population by 30 %, another week to make certain there would never again be any sort of estate tax, and then I would concentrate on making sure all -- ALL -- long term welfare "Entitled" recipients were hand delivered thier NEW entitlements. It would not take them long to read, 2 or 3 sentences at most!! hehehe

Let's all look back and then ahead and see what we really have to appreciate -- we have had it soooo good for so many years, I just hope it will continue in some way!

Merry Christmas folks -- love to all !


Terry
 

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Weve had it good because of people like you:you have my respect big time-and you are definitely right-THE PLOITICIANS FROM BOTH SIDES SOLD YOU OUT IN THE NAM FIASCO-and they are doing it today.Nature of the beast (or coward-choose your poisen) O0
 

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“The great virtue of a free market system is that it does not care what color people are; it does not care what their religion is; it only cares whether they can produce something you want to buy. It is the most effective system we have discovered to enable people who hate one another to deal with one another and help one another.”
― Milton Friedman
 

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Well said cowboy, well said. I tip my cap sir. You are a patriot through and through. From the documentaries I've watched  you certainly went through hell. I'm prepared to fight to the death for our country just like you did. I never dreamed the threat would come from the inside but it sure as hell is. It's good to know I'm not the only one who thinks this country is a trainwreck.
 

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Amen, Cowboy we have seen our better days, just worry about our kids and grandkids they will never see good times.
 

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mark tenenbaum said:
Weve had it good because of people like you:you have my respect big time-and you are definitely right-THE PLOITICIANS FROM BOTH SIDES SOLD YOU OUT IN THE NAM FIASCO-and they are doing it today.Nature of the beast (or coward-choose your poisen) O0

Sold him out? Most likely saved his life.  Support out troops, bring them ALL home. 

 

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“The great virtue of a free market system is that it does not care what color people are; it does not care what their religion is; it only cares whether they can produce something you want to buy. It is the most effective system we have discovered to enable people who hate one another to deal with one another and help one another.”
― Milton Friedman
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Unless your a cafe in the south before the civil rights act, then you don't care if people want to do business with you or not, then you care about color first.
 
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