Top Angus Sires by Registrations

[Airgator]

Top 25 Angus Sires by Registrations 2017
1. RB Tour of Duty 177
2. Quaker Hill Rampage
3. Connealy Black Granite
4. AAR Ten X
5. SAV Resource 1441
6. Basin Payweight 1682
7. WR Journey
8. KCF Bennett Absolute
9. VAR Discovery 2240
10. PVF Insight 0129
11. Deer Valley All In
12. Connealy Capitalist 028
13. Connealy Comrade 1385
14. VAR Generation 2100
15. GAR Prophet
16. Plattemere Weigh Up
17. EF Commando
18. SAV Renown
19. Hoover Dam
20. SAV Ten Speed
21. Connealy Consensus 7229
22. JMB Traction 292
23. KCF Bennett Fortress
24. GAR Sunrise
25. EXAR Stud
New for 2017:                                                                                                               
WR Journey, Plattemere Weigh Up, EF Commando, SAV Renown,                                        SAV Ten Speed, JMB Traction, KCF Bennett Fortress, GAR Sunrise, EXAR Stud.

Out for 2017:
Baldridge Waylon, EXAR Denver, EXAR Upshot, Connealy Final Product,               
SAV Final Answer, VAR Reserve, Barstow Cash, Sitz Upward, SAV Bismarck, SAV Brilliance.

 

[knabe]

This is the penguin list.


What sires had the most in herd registrations with NO outside of herd registrations.


Any other use patterns worth exploring besides yet another ad for the people who don't need it?


Which bulls on the top 25 list have the same prefix in 3 generations.


Which 3 generation bull with same prefix has the most registrations.


The top 25 is just so boring.

 

[kiblercattle]

There is only 2 bulls on that list of would try and they are half brothers. Apparently I am not a very good angus breeder.

 

[GM]

This is the penguin list.


What sires had the most in herd registrations with NO outside of herd registrations.


Any other use patterns worth exploring besides yet another ad for the people who don't need it?


Which bulls on the top 25 list have the same prefix in 3 generations.


Which 3 generation bull with same prefix has the most registrations.


The top 25 is just so boring.

I can't tell what you're insinuating.  Is this list bad for the breed?  Why is that?  Is it semen distributors, politics, naivety, new money, trendiness, laziness, and/or etc?  I'm not an Angus guy, and genuinely curious.

 

[Airgator]

How would it be possible to come up with a list of calves without registering them?              Not sure anyone would volunteer to put that list together.
If you are in a business of any kind you have to watch trends. 
You don't have to agree with them. 

 

[knabe]

List is lazy and not very useful. Mostly same breeders (present/past board members) every year

How many calves registered by non-owners or volume bull buyers.

Want to know unregistered use indicating please potential use for commercial replacements, yes people do this, i.e. Ali.

Want to know if some small producer had a good bull with stacked breeding rather than multiple trader prefixes.

Lots of creative ways to distill data rather than just another ad for sitz, sav, Conneally, gar, exar.


What about Bulls that moved numbers beyond parents with data


Seriously. This is a list of successful marketing rather than improvement.


If the Bulls on list are that good, why not report all calves. Is it that embarrassingly?


If Bulls are that good, calves should be recorded regardless of registration, the least of which is to report more accurate data. Sheesh.


the list has limited use without more transparency.

 

[cowboy_nyk]

Ya we all know AI sire from big programs get over-used and over promoted.  No sense complaining about that. That's like complaining about seeing seeing another Chevy truck ad or a Ford truck ad that says they are the top seller for the millionth year in a row.

  The real info on that list lies in the older sires who are still on the list 5, 8, or 10 years after first appearing.  These bulls are siring cattle who are either consistently marketable or are consistent in making good daughters.  Once you sort out which is which, there's some info a breeder can use to make herd improvements. 

 

[knabe]

so maybe they could at least put the number of years on the list each bull has been there.


not really "complaining" about promoted bulls etc.  just commenting that the list as presented isn't very useful.

 

[cowboy_nyk]

I agree. Something like how the music charts say: weeks on the list, highest ranking, and placing on the previous list.

 

[CAB]

I agree with what has been said above but I will point out that there are a lot of cattle producers that don't have the time nor interest to follow the discussions that we all seem to take. I bred up some heifers to sell last spring and I needed to breed these heifers to a CE Angus bull that had name recognition credit. I bred them all to Bennett Fortress and low and behold he makes the list. It will possibly help me get these heifers sold and may bring a little more money hopefully.

 

[cowboy_nyk]

CAB - That is exactly what I meant about sires that are consistently marketable.  Sometimes, for better or worse, a "name brand" sire is what pays the bills.  It is what it is.  Just part of the business.

 

[Steve123]

Where is SAV Final Answer on that list?

http://genex.crinet.com/news2430/ALegendPasses

 

[knabe]

Where is SAV Final Answer on that list?

http://genex.crinet.com/news2430/ALegendPasses

i think he's dead and semen is $5000/unit or some outrageous price so he won't have a lot of offspring.
mostly seems to show up in top echelon's of show cattle only.

 

[cowboy_nyk]

Where is SAV Final Answer on that list?

http://genex.crinet.com/news2430/ALegendPasses

His son Capitalist is on the list.  Like Knabe said, his death has caused the semen price to skyrocket so the numbers aren't going to be there.

 

[Duncraggan]

Wait for the clone!

 

[shortybreeder]

Wait for the clone!

Genex already has one. I believe they were marketing semen on him before the original even died.
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php?action=DETAIL&code=1AN01259&lang=EN

 

[Duncraggan]

Sorry, not an Angus breeder!

Why has the semen on the original gone to $5000 a dose then? There is nothing worse for me than buying something, only to see it on sale the next week!

 

[cowboy_nyk]

FWIW I've never seen Final Answer semen go for much more than $250.  Lots of sons out there who do most of the same things.