True sire of Cunia 602

[SEA]

It was posted earleir this year, that there was some discussion as to who the actual sire of "Cunia 602" is.  I originally thought it was Cunia when I purchased some semen.  Later, I heard the AMAA was questioniing his pedigree and registering cattle out of him.
I have some Cunia 602 semen in my tank and held off using it this year until the issue was sorted out.  Greg Kroupa raised and owns the bull.  He is out of his famous 602 cow.

Can anyone please inform me of the current status of this Maine Anjou sire?

 

[jimbob123]

I would ask Brad Hook as he is great at solving these riddles.... (lol)

 

[yuppiecowboy]

well, who knows what C 602 is. Nobody seems to care. I will tell you this, I dont give a hoot if My Turn is out of Howard the Duck, I'm ordering more semen.

 

[aj]

Could it be Trump?

 

[SEA]

All I remember is that P-F was working on it last Spring according to a post I read.  If I remember correctly they had heifers out of him that they were trying to register with the AMAA.

 

[Freddy]

I need the same question answered , have 3 daughters that look pretty good an he was suppose to make wonderful females ...

 

[beefy08]

A Cunia 602 had my best calf this year. I hope they figure this out.

 

[SEA]

bump

 

[knabe]

A Cunia 602 had my best calf this year. I hope they figure this out.

what does it matter.  just breed it up.  heck, use it on a fullblood if you are worried about percentage.

 

[Freddy]

First thing is your proably right, cause it don't seem to have any interest from any body or breed associations.  But this is why some breeds are what they are to day , maybe we should just do away with breeds an save some of us breeders a lot of money over the years paying for things that are not very accurate ...

 

[SEA]

A Cunia 602 had my best calf this year. I hope they figure this out.

what does it matter.  just breed it up.  heck, use it on a fullblood if you are worried about percentage.

'Cause I was looking for some "Cunia" influence to add to my cow herd, in a low Maine % package.  Preferable half blood Maine/Angus.

 

[knabe]

'Cause I was looking for some "Cunia" influence to add to my cow herd, in a low Maine % package.  Preferable half blood Maine/Angus.

higher or lower % than irish whiskey, hard core son etc influenced half-blood?

 

[aj]

Was this deal a funny business deal or an honest mistake.

 

[SEA]

'Cause I was looking for some "Cunia" influence to add to my cow herd, in a low Maine % package.  Preferable half blood Maine/Angus.

higher or lower % than irish whiskey, hard core son etc influenced half-blood?

I always heard that Irish Whiskey females had "No Milk".  I don't know much about any proven female makeing, Hard Core half blood sons.

 

[Telos]

Kroupa has always promoted the 602 cow as a commercial cow. So the pedigree of Cunia 602 is pretty much of a mystery on the top and the bottom (unless you're Kroupa). I would guess there are Maine genetics on both sides with some Cunia influence.

 

[knabe]

'Cause I was looking for some "Cunia" influence to add to my cow herd, in a low Maine % package.  Preferable half blood Maine/Angus.

why not just use 602?  also, you could use a fullblood with milk on an angus son.  some people still make those and there will hopefully be some next year with no cunia, so no monkey mouth or spastic pareisis and the same milk numbers.  why the need for low maine %?  do you consider 50% low?

 

[Okotoks]

'Cause I was looking for some "Cunia" influence to add to my cow herd, in a low Maine % package.  Preferable half blood Maine/Angus.

why not just use 602?  also, you could use a fullblood with milk on an angus son.  some people still make those and there will hopefully be some next year with no cunia, so no monkey mouth or spastic pareisis and the same milk numbers.  why the need for low maine %?  do you consider 50% low?

Are you saying Cunia carries monkey mouth and spastic pareiss? Neither of these is listed as a genetic defect on the Maine Anjou web site just TH and PHA. Keeping up with all the defects can be a challenge.

 

[knabe]

Are you saying Cunia carries monkey mouth and spastic pareiss? Neither of these is listed as a genetic defect on the Maine Anjou web site just TH and PHA. Keeping up with all the defects can be a challenge.

monkey mouth is well known for cunia and is recessive.  spastic pareisis (and suspected of being recessive), which the association is funding? a test for is under suspicion for cunia.

 

[SEA]

Where is P-F?  What's goin' on?  ???

 

[SEA]

'Cause I was looking for some "Cunia" influence to add to my cow herd, in a low Maine % package.  Preferable half blood Maine/Angus.

why not just use 602?  also, you could use a fullblood with milk on an Angus son.  some people still make those and there will hopefully be some next year with no cunia, so no monkey mouth or spastic pareisis and the same milk numbers.  why the need for low maine %?  do you consider 50% low?

I can use Cunia 602, I have his semen my tank.  However, if I am looking for Cunia influence...he may not be the one. if the original supposition is correct.

I do not want a fullblood or high % Maine sire for this particular breeding goal, as I am wanting to mate some commercial/cross cows, to produce replacement females. 

By low percentage, I am looking for approx. 1/2 blood MA/AN.  Deep ribbed, easy fleshing, milk, and structurally correct, in a frame score 5-6 package.

I have found the half blood Maine/Angus or Simm/Angus sires, when maternally bred, make for a good sire for this particular breeding goal.