knabe
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garybob said:
75,000 people a month seem to find a way including people on warehousing wages.
Most farm workers that I've interfaced with don't want to be citizens or the believe in Aztlan or both.
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75,000 people a month seem to find a way including people on warehousing wages.
Most farm workers that I've interfaced with don't want to be citizens or the believe in Aztlan or both.
garybob said:
Not to sound cold, but if you can't afford to become a legal citizen, go home until you can. I can not afford for them to stay. And me not affording them trumps them not affording to become legal.
There is no other country in the world, that allow illegal immigrants to come into the country, speak a foreign language, demand that legal forms be printed in THEIR language, fly their "home" flag, create their own little "home country" all the while taking the countries money and welfare.
I am probably a bit peeved right now, as I followed a "truck" that had a bumper sticker on it that had the Mexico flag and it said "Proud to be Mexican" My first thought "Then go home."
knabe
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they already know they will outbreed the existing population.
it's not really that big of a deal.
each population did the same thing before.
when the next one comes, they will be the one's complaining about all the immigrants.
mexico only allows around 2500 legal immigrants a year.
funny how the mexicans aren't screaming for the same policy in america.
hypocrites. it's amazing how "americans" supposedly hate mexicans. nothing could be further from the truth in general. as a percentage of racism, i'll say americans in general are less racist than the people who create enclaves when they come here. of course in a couple of generations, that disappears. i really don't get the obsession of constantly trying to always portray americans as racist. as a percentage of the population, americans are probably the least racist people in the world. there really is NO OTHER PLACE as accepting as america in the ENTIRE WORLD.
i gotta say it's pretty interesting to see mexicans interact with el salvodorians.
the el salvodorians are starting to displace mexicans in jobs around here.
it's really funny, because the el salvadorians have a better reputation of being harder workers.
as a mexican if they want to immigrate el salvadorians into mexico.
their repulsion far outweighs anything being portrayed in america with regard to mexicans.
it's time that everyone's eyes opened up a little bit.
it's not about whitey. racism isn't a white issue, it's a human issue.
it's not really that big of a deal.
each population did the same thing before.
when the next one comes, they will be the one's complaining about all the immigrants.
mexico only allows around 2500 legal immigrants a year.
funny how the mexicans aren't screaming for the same policy in america.
hypocrites. it's amazing how "americans" supposedly hate mexicans. nothing could be further from the truth in general. as a percentage of racism, i'll say americans in general are less racist than the people who create enclaves when they come here. of course in a couple of generations, that disappears. i really don't get the obsession of constantly trying to always portray americans as racist. as a percentage of the population, americans are probably the least racist people in the world. there really is NO OTHER PLACE as accepting as america in the ENTIRE WORLD.
i gotta say it's pretty interesting to see mexicans interact with el salvodorians.
the el salvodorians are starting to displace mexicans in jobs around here.
it's really funny, because the el salvadorians have a better reputation of being harder workers.
as a mexican if they want to immigrate el salvadorians into mexico.
their repulsion far outweighs anything being portrayed in america with regard to mexicans.
it's time that everyone's eyes opened up a little bit.
it's not about whitey. racism isn't a white issue, it's a human issue.
Doc
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knabe said:
I agree 100%. I don't understand how people think only white people can be racist. I'm in and out of shops all day long, everyday. I have a lot of customers that are Kurds, Mexicans, from all over the middle East and a few Oriental. You talk about racist , go have a conversation with them about another race, other than whites. They make the KKK or Hitler look like the ACLU.
RyanChandler
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" And sometimes I just wish I had that collar in my pocket"
If you're not familiar with Jane Elliot or haven't read/seen this, you should:
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If you're not familiar with Jane Elliot or haven't read/seen this, you should:
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knabe
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Basically that's what's happening by giving people other people's money.
The people who forked for it, don't deserve it and are inferior, especially if they are white as white guilt is taught by liberals and reinforced by liberal government policies.
You hit the nail on the head why I can't stand liberal policies.
Conservatives aren't much better as they focus on corporations and liberals are just as bad giving away money to vooperations. The stimulus and bailouts are a prime example. The 20% down rule should never been changed. It caused the housing bubble.
Both sides need to be thrown out.
The people who forked for it, don't deserve it and are inferior, especially if they are white as white guilt is taught by liberals and reinforced by liberal government policies.
You hit the nail on the head why I can't stand liberal policies.
Conservatives aren't much better as they focus on corporations and liberals are just as bad giving away money to vooperations. The stimulus and bailouts are a prime example. The 20% down rule should never been changed. It caused the housing bubble.
Both sides need to be thrown out.
RyanChandler
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1% of the people in this country pay 60% of the nations taxes. Just imagine if the 1%ers approached the masses with the level of disdain the $40k'ers have towards indigents.
knabe
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Your numbers are wrong.
Why is the disdain of one group more special than the other?
Why not just have a system that reinforces the individual instead of groups of people against each other?
Why is the disdain of one group more special than the other?
Why not just have a system that reinforces the individual instead of groups of people against each other?
knabe
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People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.
liberals, in general, force people to give more through taxes, and give exemptions to people who pay little or no income tax. conservatives, in general, give tax exemptions to people who pay those higher taxes as a restraint. the whole system is stupid and wastes a lot of time, money and energy.
America is largely divided between religious givers and secular non-givers (takers).
liberals will never see that as they can not see that they don't give, because they are spending all their time finding ways to take and voting themselves in office from the people they give other people's money too.
of course the only liberal response to that is conservatives are bad because of a-z and are incapable of looking at themselves.
liberals, in general, force people to give more through taxes, and give exemptions to people who pay little or no income tax. conservatives, in general, give tax exemptions to people who pay those higher taxes as a restraint. the whole system is stupid and wastes a lot of time, money and energy.
America is largely divided between religious givers and secular non-givers (takers).
liberals will never see that as they can not see that they don't give, because they are spending all their time finding ways to take and voting themselves in office from the people they give other people's money too.
of course the only liberal response to that is conservatives are bad because of a-z and are incapable of looking at themselves.
RyanChandler
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That number is pretty accurate. The federal income tax is only one part of the federal tax system.
There should be no disdain period. But I would contend- by observation alone- that the largest group of despisers are the lower middle class (40-90k) that think they've hit it big.
There should be no disdain period. But I would contend- by observation alone- that the largest group of despisers are the lower middle class (40-90k) that think they've hit it big.
knabe
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-XBAR- said:
cite the source on the 1%. i've seen numbers range from 30% to 60%, depending upon if it's all taxes, or just federal income tax, which of course allows exemptions for taxes, interest and other items, as does state income tax, especially in CA where you can itemize or take a lump sum tax credit, which basically averages a sales tax deduction to allow EZ tax forms.
knabe
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-XBAR- said:
i would agree, especially if they are liberal. they simply are the most intolerant bunch of people i've ever met and are not ashamed about it. they simply hate diversity and start every argument with how ignorant people are that disagree with them. yes conservatives do that too, but i find it really amazing that the supposedly most tolerant group of people are aggressively intolerant, especially in san francisco.
RyanChandler
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Theyre only intolerant to those groups which pride themselves on their exclusionary policies.
Make your own conclusion but the biggest income inequality I personally see is that between so called liberals and the conservatives. Amongst the people I know, I would say those that identify as liberals make 50% more income than those I know that consider themselves conservative. Perhaps only coincidental. But then again, I don't believe in coincidence.
Make your own conclusion but the biggest income inequality I personally see is that between so called liberals and the conservatives. Amongst the people I know, I would say those that identify as liberals make 50% more income than those I know that consider themselves conservative. Perhaps only coincidental. But then again, I don't believe in coincidence.
knabe
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And it's a fact liberals give less.
Which exclusionary policies do conservatives pride themselves on?
The congressional black caucus, mecha, Aztlan, la raza, Islam, no taxes if income too low, too many and too easy to list. Your argument doesn't hold water. Your intolerance is showing. Free speech is about tolerating intolerance, which is why liberals hate it and ate always attacking the first amendment as well as the 2nd which protects the first from the government intruding on thee first. No liberal is capable of understanding that or tolerating it if they did.
Remember, liberals wanted slavery and held the constitution ransom because of it.
Which exclusionary policies do conservatives pride themselves on?
The congressional black caucus, mecha, Aztlan, la raza, Islam, no taxes if income too low, too many and too easy to list. Your argument doesn't hold water. Your intolerance is showing. Free speech is about tolerating intolerance, which is why liberals hate it and ate always attacking the first amendment as well as the 2nd which protects the first from the government intruding on thee first. No liberal is capable of understanding that or tolerating it if they did.
Remember, liberals wanted slavery and held the constitution ransom because of it.
RyanChandler
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My god the generalizations are overwhelming.
knabe
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-XBAR- said:
Just mirroring you clarity. Your generalizations carry the same weight as others.
knabe
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-XBAR- said:
No kidding. The left wing is the most intolerant racist overpaid over benefitted group around.
The generalizations just keep coming.
http://eagnews.org/union-boss-karen-lewis-blames-rich-white-people-for-chicagos-school-woes/
I can just imagine the math questions.
How many rich white people does it take to pay her salary......
knabe
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Heres some more overwhelming generalizations
We can not put a simple database check for the same address in for tax returns because we are too busy targeting conservative interest groups.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/06/22/irs-sent-refunds-to-23994-undocumented-immigrants-at-same-address-78436?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BizpacReview-TodaysStories+%28BIZPAC+Review+-+Conservative+Political+News+and+Opinion%29
The problem began in 1996, when the IRS began issuing Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers to undocumented immigrants who are “not authorized to work in the United States.” Three years later, the Treasury Inspector General reported the problem with this practice.
So let me get this straight. Since 1999 we havent figured out a solution?
This is why i almost never vote for either party. They are both evil.
We can not put a simple database check for the same address in for tax returns because we are too busy targeting conservative interest groups.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/06/22/irs-sent-refunds-to-23994-undocumented-immigrants-at-same-address-78436?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BizpacReview-TodaysStories+%28BIZPAC+Review+-+Conservative+Political+News+and+Opinion%29
The problem began in 1996, when the IRS began issuing Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers to undocumented immigrants who are “not authorized to work in the United States.” Three years later, the Treasury Inspector General reported the problem with this practice.
So let me get this straight. Since 1999 we havent figured out a solution?
This is why i almost never vote for either party. They are both evil.
garybob
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A lot of you guys on here are just like the hypocrites where I am from ( 72638). Nobody older than 35yrs of age, from that area likes the fact that Green Forest is nowadays about 28% Hispanic ( 99% of whom are legal, although I admit, back about 18yrs ago it was common knowledge that only about 66% were legit)......YET....refuse to work for Tyson or Butterball at any of their plants in the area.
If you don't want 'em here, then go to the HR Office in Berryville, Green Forest, or Huntsville....and apply...they'll hire you...stay on...otherwise, Hush!
GB
If you don't want 'em here, then go to the HR Office in Berryville, Green Forest, or Huntsville....and apply...they'll hire you...stay on...otherwise, Hush!
GB
knabe
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why should i give up my job and go to huntsville?
if we didn't have so many handouts, people might be more inclined to head to huntsville that have no employable skills.
instead, they have other options as the government will help them not work.
the people who want to get ahead are working, including illegals.
the problem isn't the illegals or the people on their duff, it's the government incentivising sloth.
if we didn't have so many handouts, people might be more inclined to head to huntsville that have no employable skills.
instead, they have other options as the government will help them not work.
the people who want to get ahead are working, including illegals.
the problem isn't the illegals or the people on their duff, it's the government incentivising sloth.
