Very profound quote!!!! N/C

[Doc]

This is a very profound quote , that I wish our "leaders" of today would read & try to go by!!

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.  
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.  
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
......Abraham Lincoln

 

[trevorgreycattleco]

Thanks for that DOC! I think America could use another Lincoln about right now.

 

[simtal]

Thanks for that DOC! I think America could use another Lincoln about right now.

but will it take another civil war to do so?

 

[garybob]

This is a very profound quote , that I wish our "leaders" of today would read & try to go by!!

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.  
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.  
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
......Abraham Lincoln

Then, why do so many "patriots" incite class hatred? Got a born-again uncle who is the biggest biggot you'd ever meet.

 

[knabe]

we are programmed to perceive threat and stratify it.

it's like training a calf.  it can be overcome by desensitization and understanding.

on the other hand, some threats are perceived as innocuous.

 

[Show Heifer]

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.  I hope you'll join with me, as we try to change it."                  -- Barack Obama
                                ****************
"Life's tough, pilgrim,  and it's even tougher if you're stupid.''
-- John Wayne


As far as obama goes, well, he is half right, we do live in the greatest nation in history. The rest is up for debate.
I'm with John Wayne on this one!! 

 

[JbarL]

" a house divided....cannot stand"   ----abraham lincoln

 

[Show Steaks]

it will always be a house divided, every time the presidency switches the house and senate changes, kinda a load of "carp" that people vote by what their "poltical party" believes is right.... noone votes for their state or there opinion they vote so that the media doesnt call them out for being a sell out to their party. the media finds every flaw and overlooks every positive

 

[knabe]

let the true value of assets be revealed and party won't matter.

parties are only necessary to bribe constituents.

 

[QMC]

The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of false living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.    T. Roosevelt

 

[JbarL]

i'd be curious to know what the native americans may have written in the mid 1860's on the future of the land.....i quess no one was interested in what they thought....but im sure they have there own history they teach... and there own heros and villians as well...
native amercians had a 2 party system...one that would share with you and one that would kill you...
our civil war kinda messed theres up, and that third party never got off the ground.......jbarl

 

[Doc]

Then, why do so many "patriots" incite class hatred? Got a born-again uncle who is the biggest biggot you'd ever meet.
[/quote]

Is he a class biggot or a race biggot? Most of the time when someone calls a person a "biggot" it is over race , not class. There is a big difference.

 

[knabe]

i'd be curious to know what the native americans may have written in the mid 1860's on the future of the land.....i quess no one was interested in what they thought....but im sure they have there own history they teach... and there own heros and villians as well...
native amercians had a 2 party system...one that would share with you and one that would kill you...
our civil war kinda messed theres up, and that third party never got off the ground.......jbarl

the least typo's by jbarl ever.  indians like casino's.

 

[knabe]

finally a plan to save the earth.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-ecofriendly-cigarettes-kill-destructive-human,17529/

 

[JbarL]

i'd be curious to know what the native americans may have written in the mid 1860's on the future of the land.....i quess no one was interested in what they thought....but im sure they have there own history they teach... and there own heros and villians as well...
native amercians had a 2 party system...one that would share with you and one that would kill you...
our civil war kinda messed theres up, and that third party never got off the ground.......jbarl

the least typo's by jbarl ever.  indians like casino's.

indians like convenient stores and hotels/
native amercians like casinos....
you got your stereotyping mixed up.. jbarl

 

[knabe]

indians like convenient stores and hotels/
native amercians like casinos....
you got your stereotyping mixed up.. jbarl

i didn't get them mixed up.

indians, (native americans) like to own casino's.
indians from india like to own convenient stores and hotels.

when asians and indians call people fobbers, i quit worrying so much about names as those who are professionally ready to be offended are in my book, to be avoided at all costs unless it's a game to see what is the least effort possible to get them in a tizzy to waste time and stay without skill that is desirable in the market place.

 

[JbarL]

neither seems to be a part of any traditional political party.....more of a church and state type bunch...like the amish...not much money spent on buying politicans and lobbists in the indian/amish/ and native amercian communities....they all do much better being off, not being a traditional part of the amercian tax system...kind of a reverse racial profiling....with rewards instead of punishment, with religion as a precedent over citizenship....jbarl

 

[knabe]

..with rewards instead of punishment, with religion as a precedent over citizenship....jbarl

it's always been that way in america.  the only thing that is changing is the color of skin.  people want to be free.  denying that early americans were any different than people of different religions today that want commerce separate from religion is ridiculous.  it's really amazing that the group that people seem to hate the most are the one's who are secularist to the extreme, ie progressives and democrats, and the religious right.  they both met each other on the other side.  too bad we can't get al queda go there and all of them have a party.  instead, all three keep attacking the middle.

 

[garybob]

Then, why do so many "patriots" incite class hatred? Got a born-again uncle who is the biggest biggot you'd ever meet.

Is he a class biggot or a race biggot? Most of the time when someone calls a person a "biggot" it is over race , not class. There is a big difference.
[/quote]It's all one-and-the-same, with him. He equates race with class, i.e., a caste system. I'd suspect this covers most "patriots".

GB

 

[Doc]

Then, why do so many "patriots" incite class hatred? Got a born-again uncle who is the biggest biggot you'd ever meet.

Is he a class biggot or a race biggot? Most of the time when someone calls a person a "biggot" it is over race , not class. There is a big difference.

It's all one-and-the-same, with him. He equates race with class, i.e., a caste system. I'd suspect this covers most "patriots".

GB
[/quote]

You suspect VERY wrong in my opinion !! Are you a "patriot" ? Does this apply to you? It seems like in a lot of your past posts that you defended illegals here in the US & spoke against people that wanted them to go thru the proper procedure. Does this make you a biggot against legal citizens? Sometimes being a " class " biggot can mean against rich people as  well as poor people.