I will try to answer your question GoWyo about the father an son, the N GUN calves might be a little easier fleshing an other wise are quite a bit a like ..
CARROSELL FARMS used him strong an the bull is still going, there biggest problem Brad said was they have to keep him separate from other bulls because he wants to fight all the time ...Mac Smith in Kentucky also had real good luck with him an said for an ANGUS bull he had 'THE LOOK '' an a great front end on him ... As some of my females get older out of him an every one is backing off the size thing ,will proably put in another batch an also still have some embryo's ...Have a couple sons of his out of a GT MAX cow in our sale this year an they look very good ..His full sisters have made some very good calves for X calves ,INCOGNITO was a bull calf Tony sent down south out of OPAL ...OUR 0808 a full has put some good show calves out out of FRICTION an MILKMAN , an will have two ET calves out of SIMPLE MATH this spring .. The full sisters have sure held up their end for him ...