What to breed Shorthorn Heifers to for a sale?

[Thomas]

If you were to buy Shorthorn and Shorthorn Plus Bred Heifers what would you want them bred to?  Many of them would be Jazz influenced Females.  I would like to hear back from both purebred and Clubby people as I will breed them to anything that would bring them more value... Black, red, white, chrome, orange, smoke, or anything... doesn't matter to me. Many of these heifers would be moderate framed females with a cool look and already have good shorty hair but could maybe be a little stouter made.  Thanks in Advance.

 

[Shorthorns4us]

I'll be the first to reply-- If they are Jake's Proud Jazz influenced- I am more commercially oriented, so I would like to see them bred either of these ways:  Canadian- lots of good breeders there for commercial type,  A & T Ranch- NE, Waukaru Farms, Meadow Lane-Bertz's, Byland, JDMC group- MN.  That is just a few (I know there are more that I haven't listed) that appeal to me- but I am looking at commercial use. 
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[mark tenenbaum]

New ones or forgotten ones-sull payday,ff redman,BREATHE EASY,KABA Double Leader,Jf Perfect Image,Gizmo,arsulu osage, maine chi:-i-80,comfort zone,Total solution clone,dirty harry two,EXCEL 80,Winston 2009,Highlander,Peer Preassure,The Ringer- popular Shorthorns:- Capt Obvious, JT Renegade,The RS Bulls,The Canadian Shorthorn EZ Calvers O0

 

[Davis Shorthorns]

I'd try Captain on them.  Or maybe Wymore???  We have had some good luck with the Angus SAV bulls. 

 

[RyanChandler]

Breed em back JPJ.  There's a reason why you name dropped him.  He's prolly the most familiar name in the breed.  One should assume this familiarity will pay $ off.

 

[Jacob B]

RED DEMAND!  Only one experience with him this spring...but WOW!  a heifer out of a jpj (red angus)influenced plus heifer from jungles.  He realy changed her.  Not that she was a bad female, she was a complete kinda cow.  Not a whole lot I would want to change drastically, but I would call her a little plainer made.  But the heifer calf is angular, hairy, flahsy roan and a lot stouter made at a young age.  Stil shpaed right to come out easy and a smaller birth weight.  I was impressed for sure.  And she is growing like a wead!

 

[shortdawg]

Monopoly x JPJ was the Overall Grand Heifer at the State Show in GA this year

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Monopoly x JPJ was the Overall Grand Heifer at the State Show in GA this year /// She was a good one too-and at least the jazz side puts some calving ease on one side of the equation O0

 

[Doc]

RED DEMAND!  Only one experience with him this spring...but WOW!  a heifer out of a jpj (red angus)influenced plus heifer from jungles.  He realy changed her.  Not that she was a bad female, she was a complete kinda cow.  Not a whole lot I would want to change drastically, but I would call her a little plainer made.  But the heifer calf is angular, hairy, flahsy roan and a lot stouter made at a young age.  Stil shpaed right to come out easy and a smaller birth weight.  I was impressed for sure.  And she is growing like a wead!

You can't buy Red Demand ,can you? Try SULL Payday. I'm using him, I-80 and Mercedes Benz.

 

[shortdawg]

Monopoly x JPJ was the Overall Grand Heifer at the State Show in GA this year

Reserve Overall was a PB Shorty but I'm not sure what she was out of

 

[Jacob B]

The Red Reward has been offered to the public a number of times over this past yr or so at auction.  It's not cheap, but not too terrribly expensive.  I would agree with the Payday idea, he sounds like he may realy be a good one.  Hope so anyway, we are going thatway on a few.

 

[renegadelivestock]

Breed em back JPJ.  There's a reason why you name dropped him.  He's prolly the most familiar name in the breed.  One should assume this familiarity will pay $ off.

if you were considering this, cappiche is available sexed, and is easy to calve, both attributes would appeal to a buyer i'm sure

 

[RyanChandler]

Breed em back JPJ.  There's a reason why you name dropped him.  He's prolly the most familiar name in the breed.  One should assume this familiarity will pay $ off.

if you were considering this, cappiche is available sexed, and is easy to calve, both attributes would appeal to a buyer i'm sure

Why settle when you could go directly to the source-JPJ himself?  Not to mention Capiche is good 8-10" behind covering his tracks.

 

[Thomas]

I'm not sure that people will want to buy to many females carrying line bred jazz calves... I'm not saying they won't and I know that would work but not sure they will pay up for them?  I was leaning the clubby way as much as I don't want to I have seen bred heifers bring way more because of who they are bred to and if someone thinks there is a chance to pay for her with the first crack of the bat.  Will people pay extra for a female bred to Captain?  I am not a fan of the Red Demands although I have seen some good ones also seen many that weren't.  I don't think I would breed a heifer to monopoly due to calving ease.  Thanks

 

[mark tenenbaum]

I'm not sure that people will want to buy to many females carrying line bred jazz calves... I'm not saying they won't and I know that would work but not sure they will pay up for them?  I was leaning the clubby way as much as I don't want to I have seen bred heifers bring way more because of who they are bred to and if someone thinks there is a chance to pay for her with the first crack of the bat.  Will people pay extra for a female bred to Captain?  I am not a fan of the Red Demands although I have seen some good ones also seen many that weren't.   I don't think I would breed a heifer to monopoly due to calving ease.  Thanks/// There are a number of safe clubby type bulls and at least 5 on my list are clubby-but youd better do some research before you even think about breeding any hiefer to the Heatwave lines-I can promise you thats a sure way to run any buyer off of a bred hiefer-just common sense O0

 

[shortdawg]

I'm not sure that people will want to buy to many females carrying line bred jazz calves... I'm not saying they won't and I know that would work but not sure they will pay up for them?  I was leaning the clubby way as much as I don't want to I have seen bred heifers bring way more because of who they are bred to and if someone thinks there is a chance to pay for her with the first crack of the bat.  Will people pay extra for a female bred to Captain?  I am not a fan of the Red Demands although I have seen some good ones also seen many that weren't.   I don't think I would breed a heifer to monopoly due to calving ease.  Thanks

I missed the heifer part ..sorry...... probably wouldn't breed a 1st timer to Monopoly either .. saw some good I-80's

 

[JTM]

If you're going to resell them as bred heifers then I would go toward a purebred Shorthorn. There are few out there that I would trust when talking about calving out multiple bred heifers. I would look at Renegade, Captain Obvious, 329, or what may be another up and coming bull, GS&J Captain Rob (Captain Obvious son owned by A&T Cattle Co. and bred by Lakeside Farms). These are the bulls and bloodlines I am more familiar with that I would recommend. As a buyer I would be thinking live calves that will turn into great mama cows and herd sires.