What would you use on these cows?

[nck21]

I bought twenty cows at the sale barn this winter and these are a few that stand out. They need downsized and have good bone. I'm breeding for steers so maybe Walks Alone? Thanks

 

[shortyjock89]

Eye Candy, Monopoly, Proud Jazz

 

[OH Breeder]

My personal opinion since you don't know the genetics behind each of these cows I would suggest a purebred bull to start. These cows could be two three way cross already. Pick a safe bet that would give you a maternal option and yet be able to have a marketable steer/bull calf. If it were me you said they need to come down in frame and thicken up, I would use OCC Bulls. They would add volume and thickness. May not give you much bone but would give you some body and reduced frame score in some cases. You also don't not know there calving abiltiy. With that in mind, I would stay away from extremes IE clubby bulls without a proven track record. JMO

PS
Simmi's keep getting hotter. You may want to look at a moderate simmi to put on these ladies.

 

[shortyjock89]

Shawn- I agree with the purebred idea, but I figured if he was going for steers, a couple 1/2 blood bulls and a PB horn might work. If heifers are the goal, Ohlde or Duff bulls would be just about as perfect as you could get.

At least the clubby boys I suggested are 1/2 Angus and 1/2 Galloway.....a little more CE anyhow!

 

[nck21]

Thanks OH Breeder that might be an option. What there calves are like will give me an idea since they're due in late March and April...if they calve in time to AI. They look like they have been crossed up some. Since they are only five, I want to breed for clubbies now and then when they get older I can shoot for replacements. Smooth Sailing crossed my mind because I've heard he isn't a cow killer.

 

[OH Breeder]

After seeing a Monopoly's this past week the first cow you have pictured might just click with him. I am thinking of trying his full brother since his semen is crazy. Probably right Mr. Olson. May do alright with some half bloods on those gals.

 

[nck21]

I do like the Monopolies, too bad they jacked the prices way up  I contacted SEK and they told me they don't have any because he wasn't producing  :-\

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Open Bar,DMCC Body Builder(check his site them suckers are freaky thick-calving ease) Shake n Bake,Chore Boy,Seein Stars,Laughtners new calving ease heetseeker deal,I-80,Lucky Ralph,Barc Zuess (blue roan) Carp Diem (calving ease cool hereford look) Rainmaker (very cool blues) Captain Morgan,Smokin Joe(they are thick)Womanizer(cafs due any time) Panama red-youll never pull one-unless breached O0

 

[Show Steaks]

Alias i have heard is the ticket for your common angus based cows
I'd breed them angus  get some rela nice heifers
Carpe diem calving ease and blaze faces
heatwave 1-15 you pick
carnac
gigole joe

 

[mooch]

Wouldn't waste my time breeding them purebred unless you are in to selling calves at the salebarn or as a $800 dollar steer. Your investment is not that high probably ,as they came from the barn. Your best bet to sell something out of them is to breed them to a Heatwave clone or son, dosent matter which one really. Will you get all home runs? Probably not ,but one will more than likely hit and sell all right.the next year that cow probably won't be the one that hits  but one of the others will.Thats just the way this game goes.The fun is the gambling and seeing if what you did works.

 

[OH Breeder]

Wouldn't waste my time breeding them purebred unless you are in to selling calves at the salebarn or as a $800 dollar steer. Your investment is not that high probably ,as they came from the barn. Your best bet to sell something out of them is to breed them to a Heatwave clone or son, dosent matter which one really. Will you get all home runs? Probably not ,but one will more than likely hit and sell all right.the next year that cow probably won't be the one that hits  but one of the others will.Thats just the way this game goes.The fun is the gambling and seeing if what you did works.

Cut one out the side aint' no fun either. c-section and dead sale barn cows usually effect the bottom line. I don't have that kind of money.We did two in one year and a prolapse uterus and it wasn't cheap.
I guess he has  have no idea how these gals are going to calve. THE last thing I would stick in one of these gals is Heat Wave or a son and risk monster birthweights. If he gets some babies on the ground they tolerate the birthweights go for it.  Sale barn or not they are a big questoin mark.

 

[jbw]

OH breeder, I would use something that I have had alot of experienc with, for me It would be maternal, Morgans Dir. Dream On. ect. Not telling you to use those, but it will give you a FEEL for the cow, how she will breed and what will work on her. You can do  this without sacrificing the welfare of the cow and still have a marketable calf.

On the $800/calf comment... If I could get $800 for every calf weaned I would be happy as a pig in mud!!  I would double.. triple my cow numbers and seed the cropland down. LIFE WOULD BE GOOD!!! <rock>

 

[Throttle]

Smooth Sailing crossed my mind because I've heard he isn't a cow killer.

2 different neighbors had real bigs ones around here already this spring, plus I don't think you'll get the downsizing that you are looking for

 

[jbh]

I don't mean this as a slap in the face to your new cows......'cause they're sure nice enough......BUT, how about buying some proven(affordable) embryo matings, and try them out as recips...since you really don't know how they're going to breed or which bull to breed them to anyway....and even if you didn't want to spend MORE money on embryos, I'm bettin' somebody you know would partner with you on some of their embryos for using your cows.....just a thought.

 

[cpubarn]

Brilliant!

 

[nck21]

I do know they came from Spicer Ranches in Walden Colorado. The owner of the ranch passed away last spring and they dispersed their herd at our local sale barn. David Meyring was the name of the rancher.  I think they're bred to a Maine cross bull so I'll see what there calves are like and go from there.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

They look like Simmi crosses to me-there are a ton of clean X-breds that would work on them bigger cows O0

 

[jmb1498]

I bought two truck loads out of SD 3-5 year olds last year that look just like them and they go back to Christensen bulls.

Here was my plan:
1. Like Brad said I am putting embryos in them (Holstien's on contract)
2. Cleaning up with a Dameron bull Saugahatchee X Bardot just as OH suggested - The plan is to keep these heifers as replacements
3. The 1/2 Blood heifers that started hitting the ground this week will be bred to Dirty Hairy and then Dr. Who after that (Cleaning up with a Sandman x SM/AN Son)

Then I have my Angus X Dr Who, Dirty Hairy, Sandman cow base all clean then I can use a dirty haired freak if I want.

 

[jmb1498]

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