Who would you clone?

[Turkey Creek Ranch]

I'd love to clone Paddy O' Mally, Irish Whiskey, Whiskey 7, Wild Card, Heat Wave....a lot of the best bulls around....along with the best club calf dams i could find.

 

[DL]

I'd love to clone Paddy O' Mally, Irish Whiskey, Whiskey 7, Wild Card, Heat Wave....a lot of the best bulls around....along with the best club calf dams i could find.

WHY?? ??? ???

 

[xxcc]

in the opinion of many of the people that used him, Teton was the best bull of the flush.  easy calver, good growth, but more moderate in height, a lot of red, good disposition and good milk.

here's the politics.  81E stayed in Canada.  83E sold into the US first and for more money, I think $100,000, just less than Dollar II, the previous high selling bull.  Teton cost $52,000.  So, since 83E sold first and for more money, that meant he was a better bull right?  well anyway, Select Sires leased Teton and put up 10,000+ units, royalties were to be paid 50-50 between the two owners.  due to a royal mess up on the Canadian side, Teton along with some other fullblood cows were held up at the Canadian border for 21 days before they could be imported, all due to some idiot transposing 2 numbers on a metal ID tag when recorded on the paperwork.  SO, Teton's semen wasn't collected and on the market in time for the first breeding season, thus 83E and others like 82E, 84E, Denver Nugget, Rambler's 3M Elegant and Paramount were on the market sooner and were able to capitalize on the hype at the time. So, Teton's semen sales the first year were not exactly substantial.  By the next year, Cunia, Capone and Covino III, Epinal and the like had been proving their worth, with their semen becoming more readily available as well.  hence, not a lot of Teton semen was sold outside of our local area.  everyone that we knew that bought it, used it up because they liked him and he was still alive, so more would alway be available right?  well, so now here's the part that will make you sick.  the last of our Teton semen was in a tank that was supposed to be under the supervision of a Select Sires rep.  he let the tank go dry and in it was many units of Teton, Capone, Covino III, Crack, Cunia, Coca Cola, Dabla, and some Parisien, the Simmental bull. 

here's the kicker, the other owner was a bristly old blister.  she felt that Select Sires was not promoting Teton enough and his sales should have been higher...either that or her cut of the royalties should have been more.  this was in the 80s when the cattle market was off and the market for French cattle was sliding.  she ticked off the Managers at All West Select Sires.  they owned the semen, the storage was costing them more than was worth to deal with the old hide that was aggrevating them, so they dumped the inventory.

the last Teton semen that I knew of was in Harding's inventory.  he had a very nice herdsman , that pitched every thing that he had never heard of, like Teton amd the bull called Eruption - easy calver with explosive growth.

to my knowledge, there were never any fullbloods sired by Teton.  that's why i would clone him.

 

[AAOK]

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BMR MAGIC KAYLA - 3/4 Maine-Anjou  Bred by Baker-Moore Ranch Tishomingo, OK
Purchased by us.

An easy choice for me.  Sire: FR Magic  Dam: 1/2MA, 1/2AN Sired by AA Black Gold 500
Most correct, highest volume, most feminine cow I ever saw.  We just didn't get enough calves
out of her.  Found her dead close to the road one day  Never found the hole, but I'm sure she was shot.

One of her daughters sired by Polleroid is pictured in our Avitar.

 

[OH Breeder]

I know there are a ton of Sonny sons and they have bred a full brother to Sonny. But, I really like his females. I would love to have him back again. 500 to 700  a straw is crazy.

 

[garybob]

I would like to clone some of the old shorthorns from say the 1940's , before the baby beef deal in the 60's? Same for the angus and herfords. These cattle didn't get anything but salt for the most part. Survival of the fittest, no mineral or supplementation or whatever.They might not be any good but it would be great to at least have their germ plasm to study. There was probably some ole bull somewhere that was perfect in all the dna test's including effiecency and everything that was undiscovered and never utilized and steered and sold in a salebarn for.50 cents a pound.

They also didn't get to stay around, unless they reproduced, without trouble.

 

[farmboy]

arent there like 5 clones of heatwave  ???

Does anybody vote for power plant?

 

[garybob]

My votes are for
Shorthorn: LR Randolph 14th. Used by Dover Sindelar, He really stood out. People say he weighed 2600-plus, in his working britches. Was rock-solid, not flabby, yet soft enough. Big  & sound footed, extreme heel depth on the rear feet. Was only a 5 frame, and was so masculine, he had a tough time swishing the flies off his back & tail head with his head ( because he was so masculine-necked with a Bison-like crest).
Santa Gertrudis: The ultimate in line-breeding, noneother than Monkey. Whether or not you appreciate tropically-adapted bovines, no other single sire lives up to the title of "Progenitor".
Angus: Shearbrook Shoshone. The first big "Black Bull". Produced by selection pressure within a breeding population. Wasn't a Counterfeit (No Holstein, Swiss, Chi,Beef Friesian, or Maine), uniquely unliike so many more to follow during the race for "performance". He set the standard within the Angus breed for twenty years.
Charolais: Baldridge FastTrack. The first Charolais bull to impress me with his consistency. Never saw a "dink" or, "dud" outta him.

 

[Chap]

i just came across this bit of research and thought it pretty pertinent and while searching for a thread to attach, thought that the newer members might get a kick out of it.

http://www.ncsu.edu/news/press_releases/03_04/113.htm

this is pretty old data, but couldn't find it in discussions before.  there have been lots of questions on why the cloned animals don't look exactly like the donor and if the calves from said clones are the same as from the original, this explains fairly well in simple terms. 

 

[kanshow]

Does anyone know if there are Dream On or 3C Macho clones?  If not, I'd add those to the list of the bulls that have already been mentioned.

I'd clone 2 of my dogs.   

There are a few horses I can think of that should've been cloned - Zippo Pine Bar is one.. 

 

[knabe]

I'd clone cowboy and he could live out here in CA.

 

[shorthorngirl2010]

(lol) Just for the hell of it, I think I would clone myself -- that way, when I get too old to further antogonize all you goos folks, my REPLACEMENT would be well on his way to taking over for me!!! hehehehe (clapping) (clapping)

I just coulnd't resit -- seeing how I have met hundreds of really GOOD people I love to pick on over the years, and for SURE -- almost as many people I would love to make misserable as long as possible!!!!

As Lee and Tiffany from the hunting show would say --

"" Life is good -- Life is FINE "" hehehe

See ya -- and yes -- I most deffinately AM still alive -- just as mean as ever too I might add!!!

Terry

yeah, so mean he just HAPPENED to be nice enough to bring in chocolates into the barn the other day... And they are a MIGHTY fine treat after standing in the cool room all afternoon lol

Anyway, back to topic at hand.  I know they have, but the Primrose 2424.  Also Jamie 4101 (love that female).  Few other females that have yet to be in the spotlight, but are up and coming.  As far as bulls go. 734, 6807, EXT, 598.
-Sam

 

[Hofstatter Farms]

would love to clone Evergreen Sable, MSF EQUITY 43, and LF Lucky Charm

 

[Show Steaks]

Females: Ks Miss She's so sweet, Hairetta

Bulls: 734, steel force(just so semen wouldnt be so exspensive), EXT, maximus, occ anchor, monopoly(since he is probably going to run out of semen before too long)

 

[knabe]

any 20 year old cow with 18 calves and a 105 in herd weaning ratio.

 

[Hilltop]

My first pick would be Old Dividend. To see that bull in our pasture would be the ultimate thrill. As far as a female we had a 18 year old 1/2 hereford 1/2 shorthorn who was a grandaughter of Dividend that we had to ship last fall. It was a sad day as I watched my wife drive down the road with the trailer.When I sent a text to my nephew with no reply for a bit I knew it was bugging him as much as me. She had a calf every year and was the foundation of our commercial herd. In 2008 we had six generations including her as the oldest and my daughters 4-H steer being the youngest. We will probably never raise another commercial female like her. Kind of weird but it is not the same with her gone!

 

[Cowfarmer65]

I'm sure JIT will remember all of these sires. Old Shorthorn genetics that worked.
Bapton Constructor, Kelso Ignition, Scotsdale Rodney, Tutira Captain Dutch, Spring Grange Dutch, Mandalong Super Flag, Mandalong Super Elephant.

 

[simtal]

I think somewhere someone is working with a bunch of major packers and indentifying prime and hi choice, yield grade one carcasses.  Pull samples from those, clone them, and develop a terminal deal off that.

 

[vc]

The filly Ruffian

 

[Dusty]

any 20 year old cow with 18 calves and a 105 in herd weaning ratio.

I met a red Angus breeder two years ago that had a cow he was flushing that was an 88 model and she had never not had a calf.  He was keeping her open to try and get as many eggs as he could before she went to the pasture in the sky.