I have not seen him in person, but I am going to try him on at least one. I talked to Wade about him quite a bit at the Ohio Beef Expo and he assures me he will keep or add belly and will keep the stoutness and has a lot better rib shape than any other clubby bull he has ever promoted. Wade believes that his females should have something to offer as well. I have liked the Here I am calves a lot and with the price of his semen going up, I think this is the best alternative. We are breeding our Who Da Man donor to him as she could use some power without taking away belly and rib shape. He is linebred Full Flush, so it will be interesting to see how the attitudes are, we've had quite a few of the Full Flush cows and we love them, but get kind of tubular.