I saw 3 or 4 of them here in Ohio. Boysel's sold a pretty nice heifer on their sale. She was kinda smaller, markety, mustve brought $3-5000 (?). Lynn Holley had a heifer and a couple steers in his sale too. The heifer was real big bodied, sound. Needed hair, bone, and a little look, but was a solid cow prospect. I only saw one of the steers very good. He was out of a WMW cow and was pretty nice. Had a lot of look, just could've been more powerful. That small handful was pretty decent as a group. Karen Holley said she was real happy with them and that they bred several back that way. Is CM a PB Char?