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The worst part is, I'm torn with this: What is worse, this deal or unethical (read: drugs) fitting and feeding? I sure don't know, but neither are good.  Luckily, neither are rampant in the industry, but it only takes one bad apple to ruin the bunch in some situations.

I'm just going to say it simple. The original poster wanted to know about ABS simmental bulls.  OH breeder posted a picture of a cow out of an ABS bull that he believes has a good udder (as do many others).  This photo was posted so as the OP could better formulate an opinion on ABS bulls and...

When did we start raising dairy animals and judging them as such?  A very old, wise herdsman once told me that when you start breeding beef animals to look and function like dairy animals, you start having the problems of dairy animals.  OH breeder's heifer has a good udder, and you know it.  We...

I think there is a noticeable difference between muscling and masculinity, but there is no doubt a correlation, and ask any old timer of any species, the most feminine cows produce the most masculine bulls and vice versa.  I certainly see this play out, especially in the commercial herds I've...

I've seen an awful lot of good My Turn's for him to go away that quickly.  I agree on the THC Heatwaves, there are so many of them that when they are a dime a dozen, most will get lost in the shuffle and you may not even remember what they are or why you bought them. I think the ultra...

Sometimes too many rules get in the way of what is supposed to be happening.  Learning and teaching about quality cattle, hard work, and the trials and tribulations of life is the end goal of these projects.  Have you ever noticed part of life is all of the hoops you have to jump through?  It is...

It does make the classifiers less credible, and I'm sure they know that.  But it also expands Lautner's market for Heatwave, if it wasn't big enough.  Now you can breed Heatwave to even your frailest boned, least muscled cattle and hope that the bone and muscle comes out in the middle somewhere...

Who were the winners if you remember?

Maybe because it was someone else's fault?

I'm not a lawyer, but when you breed a carrier cow to a bull that is marketed as "clean" and have a TH deformed calf, the buck has to stop somewhere, and I don't think that it should be at the producer with the calf.  It comes down to false representation.  However, there was no intent, and it...

Sounds like it will be a lot of nail biting for those who used him on carrier cows.  1 out of 4 of them  is a gonner before it's born.  Glad we did not use him now, but still like the bull.  He's just not as applicable as I thought he may have been if these rumors are true. 

I know a guy who does fairly well feeding out Brown Swiss calves.  I use "fairly" as a term for not losing money in this case.  He sells quarters and halves off of the farm, and gets pretty good prices for them.  If you can feed them economically and market them in this fashion you might have a...

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