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    Misrepresenting the facts??

    Actually Bart - if you read the description under the steerplanet.com it says "On online community for cattle enthusiasts" - along time ago a group of us created that line - so it is MORE than a show cattle site  ::) so technically speaking it is a site for cattle enthusiasts some of whom are...
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    Potential genetic defect in Shorthorn cattle

    I don't know if "skip a generation" is the right way to think about it as a DS homozygote can look almost normal but still be homozygous for the mutation so bc of the penetrance issue they may look phenotypically normal but genetically carry 2 copies of the DS mutation. So it hasn't genetically...
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    Polymelia in Angus cattle

    Don't know that I entirely agree with you Mill Iron - several of the "new Angus defects" were identified first in Australia (actually so was MA in the Red Angus but that is a different story) DD and CA to be specific and (IMHO) the AAA did very little to encourage the submission of samples or...
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    Potential genetic defect in Shorthorn cattle

    OK - since I started this thread way back when - here is what I now know -( interestingly we seemed to understand the variable penetrance and the mode of inheritance pretty well before we knew the mutation and the whole story - ) DS is inherited as an autosomal recessive (like TH and PHA) - to...
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    Potential genetic defect in Shorthorn cattle

    The current issue appears to be slightly different from the one in the article - it is hydrocephalus and cleft palate - if I recall less than 10 have been noted - a couple of samples have been submitted and pedigrees from other affected calves (it is lethal) are similar - but that is as far as...
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    Polymelia in Angus cattle

    Freddy - yup - read the first post for details - but high percentage of homozygous embryos are aborted probably in the first or 2nd trimester
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    Potential genetic defect in Shorthorn cattle

    For a genetic defect to "show up sooner" you need a couple of things 1) sufficient prevalence of the mutation in the population 2) awareness of breeders 3) sufficient number of abnormal calves so that someone somewhere suspects that it could be genetic 4) breeders willing to submit samples 5)...
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    Old Cigar Pb Maine Bull

    Would not use Cigar on heifers - he did make good functional cows
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    Potential genetic defect in Shorthorn cattle

    As of July 25 still working to finalize - it is sort of an odd duck - all ducks need to be in a row before any announcements - also the DD thing in Angus is taking a bit of time testing billions of bulls ;)
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    Polymelia in Angus cattle

    Still working on it - think more samples would be helpful
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    Polymelia in Angus cattle

    Link to tested bulls including other breeds http://absbeef.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/abs-dd-results-august-12-2013.pdf
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    Polymelia in Angus cattle

    In theory http://www.angus.org/angus.aspx  - it should be right below the calendar and look something like this - NEW Genetic Condition Update - A new genetic condition has been identified by Dr. Jon Beever, University of Illinois. A Task Force of the Board has been directed to meet this week to...
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    Polymelia in Angus cattle

    Some of you may remember the call for samples from calves born with polymelia (extra legs) - Dr Beever has identified the mutation - you can down load this article and the list of carriers from the AAA web site and it it below- athe very interesting thing is the association with early embryonic...
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    Help.... Fair is next week and Steer is lame this AM

    Not to be contrary but the slaughter withhold for Draxxin in cattle when used according to label (which includes footrot) is 18 days from the last treatment - it is 5 days for swine From the label - RESIDUE WARNINGS Cattle Cattle intended for human consumption must not be slaughtered within 18...
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    stampede steer disqualified the facts and real problem

    cc - I have no idea who these people are, I have never been to the Stampede and there is nothing personal about this to me - winning at all costs sometimes costs. Break the rules and get caught is the chance you (generic) take. Do they have the right to appeal - yup. Will they appeal - who...
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    stampede steer disqualified the facts and real problem

    Yeah, so they say. You have made many statements and presented them as "facts" - In the interest of "transparency" what is your documentation that the Stampede Accredited Veterinarians are responsible for knowing the show rules? Do you have a list of responsibilities for the Stampede Accredited...
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    stampede steer disqualified the facts and real problem

    It is not clear from the "facts" in the press release if the vet was "a vet" or the "event vet" In general the veterinarian at an event is responsible for 1) making sure animals are moved into the event with the proper paperwork and identification (ie health certificate, RFID or breed tattoo or...
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    stampede steer disqualified the facts and real problem

    All of the "facts" are from a press release - nowhere is it stated by what route the Banamine was given - the withdrawal of 6 days applies ONLY to Banamine given IV - so we are missing some important "facts" and all the conclusions drawn based of the "facts" are suspect. So we don't know if this...
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    stampede steer disqualified the facts and real problem

    You seem to have a lot of "facts" so tell me who gave the Banamine? What route was used? Was it given according to the label? Was the vet the Stampede vet or the owners vet? Why was it given? How many times? When was it given in relationship to the drug test? And actually cc I think you missed...
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    Stampede champion steer disqualified

    Here we go again - deja vu - people who claim foul bc an animal was disqualified for breaking the rules in regards to use of drugs in the animals we raise for food - really? you only have go back to the beginning of SP to realize that some people apparently never learn and are as uninformed as...
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