1930 Iowa Exp. Station report on Shorthorn Galloway crosses

[librarian]

These researchers were working on color inheritance. We think we understand the inheritance of roan much better almost 100 years later, but what about their information that Whitehall Sultan and two of his white sons threw red calves from red cows?
The photo of the 3/4 Shorthorn steer is interesting to me. It is not  hard to imagine that someone thought it would be profitable to do the same thing with a red Galloway instead of Black.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/a2e7/b005a0076834d07942d4d49eae72e9f5e61f.pdf?_ga=2.243306117.1845076031.1580317366-691677530.1580317366

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Some of them are better looking than the Shorthorns of that era for sure Heres some recent Blue Greys or close

 

[librarian]

3/4 Shorthorn

 

[librarian]

The white bull they were using in the 1930 research. Wish the 1930 Galloway cows and the 1 bulls were pictured

 

[Gargan]

Some of them are better looking than the Shorthorns of that era for sure Heres some recent Blue Greys or close

Reminds me of my fav billboard hit song
https://youtu.be/bxUuMrRWbzM

 

[Boreal]

Some of them are better looking than the Shorthorns of that era for sure Heres some recent Blue Greys or close

Those yours Librarian?

 

[librarian]

Some of them are better looking than the Shorthorns of that era for sure Heres some recent Blue Greys or close

Those yours Librarian?

No...
Mark posted them as a modern example. Looks like a picture from the UK by that stone wall in the background. I never got a real blue grey coloration with the white Shorthorn I had before. All my F1's were charcoal colored with white underlines.  I have an idea one might get farther with a roan bull. Mine will never be true Blue Greys because I'm not using a Whitebred Shorthorn bull. But I use Native bulls, which works for me.
I'm told that in Scotland all the Scotch type were once called White Shorthorns, whether they were the color white or not. In some places the Scotch type (not puds, but the old school Northern beef type) were known as Weardale Shorthorns.

 

[Boreal]

Some of them are better looking than the Shorthorns of that era for sure Heres some recent Blue Greys or close

Those yours Librarian?

No...
Mark posted them as a modern example. Looks like a picture from the UK by that stone wall in the background. I never got a real blue grey coloration with the white Shorthorn I had before. All my F1's were charcoal colored with white underlines.  I have an idea one might get farther with a roan bull. Mine will never be true Blue Greys because I'm not using a Whitebred Shorthorn bull. But I use Native bulls, which works for me.
I'm told that in Scotland all the Scotch type were once called White Shorthorns, whether they were the color white or not. In some places the Scotch type (not puds, but the old school Northern beef type) were known as Weardale Shorthorns.

Gotta screw my head on straight - I thought you posted em - not Mark. I’ve had some luck making em look very similar to the Scottish blue grey. Hope to have more success in the future.

 

[librarian]

Boreal, if you have pics, I'd love to see your results. Are you using a White bull?
There was a very disappointing mess up down here this fall where a couple Blue Grey calves out of the Whitebred bull Taliesin and a good black Galloway cow went to the sale barn. If anybody in Wyoming bought them, you've got good stuff.

 

[librarian]

They came from Cody

 

[Boreal]

Boreal, if you have pics, I'd love to see your results. Are you using a White bull?
There was a very disappointing mess up down here this fall where a couple Blue Grey calves out of the Whitebred bull Taliesin and a good black Galloway cow went to the sale barn. If anybody in Wyoming bought them, you've got good stuff.

 

[Boreal]

Boreal, if you have pics, I'd love to see your results. Are you using a White bull?
There was a very disappointing mess up down here this fall where a couple Blue Grey calves out of the Whitebred bull Taliesin and a good black Galloway cow went to the sale barn. If anybody in Wyoming bought them, you've got good stuff.

She’s out of an Angus - not Galloway. Haven’t had as much luck there. Used a white bull - half irish (mists return) out of a full sister to ACC General 4u.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Anyone used a galloway like Pericles or this son of Moto Moto on white or roan shorthorns? His breeder used to post on here quite a bit-They were very cool looking cattle JMO

 

[Boreal]

Anyone used a galloway like Pericles or this son of Moto Moto on white or roan shorthorns? His breeder used to post on here quite a bit-They were very cool looking cattle JMO

Harley’s got some great Galloway cattle. His new bull Fireball that was at Denver looks good. I have a couple of Moto granddaughters that I bred to white and roan Shorthorn bulls. Haven’t bred his genetics the other way though.

 

[Medium Rare]

Anyone used a galloway like Pericles or this son of Moto Moto on white or roan shorthorns? His breeder used to post on here quite a bit-They were very cool looking cattle JMO

I tried, but did not end up with a calf. I think I still have a straw of two of sexed heifer Moto Moto I hope to use in the future.

 

[coyote]

I like the looks of the Blue Grey cattle. We don’t have any but we do have some blues , Shorthorn x Angus females.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Those are real nice-Maybe get a bull from a Galloway on a white or light roan shorthorn female and use him on ShortxAngus F1s like them-if hes Bluuu toooooo O0

 

[librarian]

I'm shooting for this, but it sure is hard to get there. I'm going to put that roan bull on some White Galloways and see what happens. Probably have to mate those back to solid colored Galloway. Then back to White Galloway, then back to Shorthorn. It never ends. Speckle Park is similar but they included lots of good Canadian Angus.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Hey Librarian you are probably aware of Longley Whitebreds but I just got this update-RE sending embryos to Canada-In the body of his site he mentions that Whiebred semen is available in the US and Canada-didnt know that-Heres his site-with pictures of some REAL QUALITY CATTLE JMO  http://www.whitebredshorthorncattle.co.uk/news/canada/index.html  O0