I'm sorry I live in the now and AHL hasn't been relevant in the state of Texas since I can remember. I don't really see them winning any where else either. So show me a major show champion since the year 2000./// You mean one related to Double Stuff? There are probably quite a few including 10 Queens x Double Visions , The Fee For All Son,(Denver) etc. I follow Louisville ,Denver, and llinois,they are way more competitive.The effect of the bulls born in 1993 doesnt have to be as a sire any more than Trump-show me a here and now Trump sired calf that's won lately.And that (Stuff,Vision,ryc) breeding is behind more high dollar sale cattle for club calves,crossed with more breedsTODAY,than Trump ever thought about-In terms of diversity of use that worked,there isnt a Shorthorn that even comes close;in the numbers of cattle today. Almost every Texas -Oklahoma club calf sale I see has something closely related-ditto for the civilized world LOL O0 O0