Angus "Classing out" @ Austin

[Gerard]

The OYE was bad this year , it was show what you brounge where you wanted . The angus class my child was in half of them was dehorned and mostly chi, mai, calfs. But the semi you should have came to oklahoma and they thow the book out the door and the dates on the heifers is a joke to just what are we trying to show our children just how much cheeting it takes to win at the shows?

 

[DLD]

The OYE was bad this year , it was show what you brounge where you wanted . The angus class my child was in half of them was dehorned and mostly chi, mai, calfs. But the semi you should have came to oklahoma and they thow the book out the door and the dates on the heifers is a joke to just what are we trying to show our children just how much cheeting it takes to win at the shows?

You do realize that to show Angus at the OYE steers are only supposed to be (at least) half Angus, and the other half is wide open?  As far as the dehorned part goes, yes they are supposed to be polled, but it's pretty tough to see dehorning scars in the pictures they use to classify with.  They could recheck them at the show, but they don't (haven't yet anyway).  Remember that in OK classifying is up to the state breed associations, not the OYE.

Heifer birthdates... That's a subject for a whole 'nother thread, and it's certainly not limited to OK

 

[cowboybecoachin]

Sometimes bad things turn out GOOD! One of our steers, a VERY good Angus that classed out @ Ft, Worth and Austin, was CHAMPION BRITISH @ his county Sunday. Congratulations to CHANLER HAVEL of College Station, Tx..
After classing out @ Austin, he had placed 9th in the AOB out of about 22 steers. Dang good for a straight Angus!
Yes, I am bragging. But very proud of our stout Angus cattle.

On heifer birthdays, don't get you panties in a wad. It is a definite advantage for junior heifers, but you can catch up and BEAT them the next year as bred heifers, and many times the Grand champion comes from the older divisions.

 

[Gerard]

The OYE was bad this year , it was show what you go  where you wanted . The Angus class my child was in half of them was dehorned and mostly chi, mai, calf's. But the semi you should have came to Oklahoma and they through the book out the door and the dates on the heifers is a joke to just what are we trying to show our children just how much cheating it takes to win at the shows?

You do realize that to show Angus at the OYE steers are only supposed to be (at least) half Angus, and the other half is wide open?  As far as the dehorned part goes, yes they are supposed to be polled, but it's pretty tough to see dehorning scars in the pictures they use to classify with.  They could recheck them at the show, but they don't (haven't yet anyway).  Remember that in OK classifying is up to the state breed associations, not the OYE.

Heifer birthdates... That's a subject for a whole 'nother thread, and it's certainly not limited to OK

Yes , we have one of the larger Angus operations in eastern Oklahoma and her calf was half heatseaker , my problem was that from the other side of the fence i could pick out the dehorning scars on most of the top of the class 1 Angus steers. most of them had no Angus in their blood lines at all  just black or painted they did not check that eather.

 

[DLD]

Yes , we have one of the larger Angus operations in eastern Oklahoma and her calf was half heatseaker , my problem was that from the other side of the fence i could pick out the dehorning scars on most of the top of the class 1 Angus steers. most of them had no Angus in their blood lines at all  just black or painted they did not check that eather.

Yeah, I can't argue with you there.  We had one that was legit (out of a 3/4 Limi bull and a registered Angus cow) and pretty decent this time, but we didn't even bring him to OYE because we knew he wouldn't be stout enough to play. The most important thing in getting one in is providing a copy of a set of Angus cow papers - that and pics of a black steer and you're pretty much golden.  I was told by an Angus breeder who was at the meeting where they decided on the current requirements that the prevailing sentiment was that by doing this maybe they could sell a few more registered Angus cows so the steer show folks would have some papers.  If you want to see a change in that, you need to take it up with the OAA... I've been told by someone close to OYE management that there is some talk about going to a Shorthorn, Hereford, Angus and crossbred format with the breeds going through visual classification at the show (like Fort Worth), but it doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon.