Attention Shorthorn Gurus and Furus - old bull pics!!!

[R180]

Longtime listener first time caller here…

I couldn’t help but bring this up.  Unless you’re living under a rock, or not interested in Shorthorns, you’ve probably seen the massive offering on Sire Buyer. 

It’s obvious this is Merl’s tank, RIP.

I haven’t seen something like this come on the market before.  I find it interesting that there is so much demand.

The questions I have are - what would you try again out of this group and why, what is it worth, can you answer without bashing any of the bulls or breeders (aka the high birthweight chi’s),  what else is hiding in other tanks out there?

https://www.sirebuyer.com/2021/05/27/shorthorn-semen-for-sale-sb10-1481/

HONKY TONK – 6 units – Make Offer
3W GEORGE STRAIGHT – 20 units – Make Offer
SOLD 3W PAYOFF – 33 units – Make Offer
3W PAYOFF – 90 units – Make Offer (Sold 35 Units)
ASH VALLEY DUTY 0709 – 383 units – Make Offer (Sold 60 Units)
ASH VALLEY DUTY 0734 – 124 units – Make Offer (Sold 124 Units)
ASTRONAUT – 69 units – Make Offer (Sold 20 Units)
BARON – 22 units – Make Offer
BBT SATINS PAYOFF – 40 units – Make Offer
BELMORE ULTRA BRIGHT L22 – 235 units – Make Offer
BO JANGLE – 13 units – Make Offer
BORIS – 44 units – Make Offer (Sold 10 Units)
BYLAND INSTANT ATTRACTION – 20 units – Make Offer
COUNTRY – 109 units – Make Offer
COUNTRY MUSIC SINGER – 2,795 units – Make Offer
SOLD DEER PARK LEADER – 3 units – Make Offer
DESPERADO – 10 units – Make Offer
DM PAYOFFS 9030 – 370 units – Make Offer
DOUBLE LEADER – 80 units – Make Offer
SOLD DREAM BOAT – 7 units – Make Offer
ESQUIRE ENCORE – 25 units – Make Offer
ESQUIRE PLAYER – 185 units – Make Offer (Sold 15 Units)
FIRST FIRST ROUND – 10 units – Make Offer
GCF ROBINS IMPROVER – 61 units – Make Offer
GR BIG BEN – 1,710 units – Make Offer
SOLD GR ET TRAMPAS – 120 units – Make Offer
GREEN RIDGE ANDY 9755 – 306 units – Make Offer
GREEN RIDGE DIVIDEND 196 – 46 units – Make Offer (Sold 30 Units)
GREEN RIDGE HAROLD – 281 units – Make Offer (Sold 15 Units)
GREEN RIDGE HAROLD – 9 units – Make Offer
GREEN RIDGE RANDOLPH – 95 units – Make Offer
SOLD GREEN RIDGE RUSTLER 3189 ET – 147 units – Make Offer
HIGH HOPE – 16 units – Make Offer
HUMMER – 23 units – Make Offer
INSTANT ENTLEER – 12 units – Make Offer
J & H HORIZON 5295 ET – 1242 units – Make Offer (Sold 150 Units)
JDS FIREMAN – 45 units – Make Offer
SOLD K DUKE – 3 units – Make Offer
SOLD KING – 10 units – Make Offer
SOLD LAZY D ULTIMATE TYPE – 311 units – Make Offer
SOLD LAZY D ULTIMATE TYPE 854 – 309 units – Make Offer
LEACHMAN FRONT RUNNER – 11 units – Make Offer
SOLD LEGGS – 6 units – Make Offer
LHE SONAR – 14 units – Make Offer
SOLD MAINSTREAM – 37 units – Make Offer
MAINTAINER – 31 units – Make Offer (Sold 15 Units)
SOLD MB STEERMAKER 816 *XAR14-643 – 6 units – Make Offer
MEL BAR KNOCKOUT 269 – 545 units – Make Offer
NIKE NIKE – 22 units – Make Offer
PAYBACK – 10 units – Make Offer
REFLECTOR – 10 units – Make Offer
ROBINS IMPROVER – 6 units – Make Offer
RPS GRAND SLAM – 1,000 units – Make Offer
SEVILLE 9067 – 11 units – Make Offer
TMG ADRENALIN – 228 units – Make Offer

 

[R180]

Good excuse to look at old Shorthorn Country magazines…

 

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…the drawing is Dreamboat.  Apparently he was so ugly when he got older they never published a photo.

 

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….last one I can find

 

[oakview]

I owned Lazy D Ultimate Type and GR Cop Top Trampass and used an ET son of Boris out of Bonnie Ruberta (Deerpark Leader 18th daughter) at one time.  I purchased Ultimate Type as a calf from Lazy D, later sold him to Duane Sicht, and Merle Welch purchased most of the semen at Duane's sale a few years later. For many years he was an ASA balanced trait leader.  The photo you provided was taken in our orchard.  I bought Trampass from Merle and thought he followed Ultimate Type as being near perfect in conformation for the time.  Ultimate Type was a direct son of Highfield Una 3rd and Trampass was a grand son.  Both bulls worked extremely well for me for many years and I would not be afraid to use them again.  The Boris son was not used as much, but his daughters were absolutely magnificent cows.  He was very moderate in size.  I tried many other bulls on the list and liked the calves I got out of all of them.  There are some good bulls on that list and Merle deserves much credit for developing them.  I last saw him at the Missouri sale a few years ago and had a good visit with him. 

 

[R180]

I owned Lazy D Ultimate Type and GR Cop Top Trampass and used an ET son of Boris out of Bonnie Ruberta (Deerpark Leader 18th daughter) at one time.  I purchased Ultimate Type as a calf from Lazy D, later sold him to Duane Sicht, and Merle Welch purchased most of the semen at Duane's sale a few years later. For many years he was an ASA balanced trait leader.  The photo you provided was taken in our orchard.  I bought Trampass from Merle and thought he followed Ultimate Type as being near perfect in conformation for the time.  Ultimate Type was a direct son of Highfield Una 3rd and Trampass was a grand son.  Both bulls worked extremely well for me for many years and I would not be afraid to use them again.  The Boris son was not used as much, but his daughters were absolutely magnificent cows.  He was very moderate in size.  I tried many other bulls on the list and liked the calves I got out of all of them.  There are some good bulls on that list and Merle deserves much credit for developing them.  I last saw him at the Missouri sale a few years ago and had a good visit with him.

Always liked the way Ultjmate Type looked.  Was he too moderate for the frame score era of the 80’s.  Seems like good genetics that got left behind because of a fad.

 

[aj]

R180 sounds familiar. Was there a show heifer that had that number.

 

[R180]

Yeah, old Robin donor cow.  Wanted to post the pics on here and hear some thoughts, but you have to be a member and I couldn’t think of username, almost went with Dreamboat haha.  I’m not affiliated w green ridge, just an anonymous former customer - I assume there are a lot of us still around who enjoy Shorthorn nostalgia.

Found a couple more from the list.  The red ones are the Ash Valley Duty’s, the better looking one is 0734

 

[Duncraggan]

J&E High Hope looks interesting, I would give it a shot if I was in N. America!

 

[Medium Rare]

I added a couple bulls to the tank and missed out on a couple others. I was surprised how much people were willing to pay for the bulls I didn't get. It would be interesting to know where some of the volume buys went and how they plan on using it.

This bred heifer is out of an Ultimate Type cow.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Me too medium-For me almost all the good ones are already sold although Id use JDS Fireman I never got to see one out of Payoffs King though AND BIG PS FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS THATS BY FAR THE BEST PICTURE OF DIVIDEND OTHER THAN ONE LAWRENCE GRATHWOHL HAD THAT I SAW I WANT TO RUN THAT ONE BY ROBERT ALDEN O0

 

[R180]

Me too medium-For me almost all the good ones are already sold although Id use JDS Fireman I never got to see one out of Payoffs King though AND BIG PS FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS THATS BY FAR THE BEST PICTURE OF DIVIDEND OTHER THAN ONE LAWRENCE GRATHWOHL HAD THAT I SAW I WANT TO RUN THAT ONE BY ROBERT ALDEN O0

Forgot I came across this one.  JDS Fireman was Maine sired by Power Plant. Looks big, but interestingly has an 11 CED and 2.7 BW epd, for what that’s worth.  Majority of his registered Shorthorn calves were at Rocker Bros who were 50% owners w possession according to ASA.

 

[knabe]

JDS Fireman was Maine sired by Power Plant.

and has shaver nelson on the bottom, a good thick bull. if i were to use him, i would not use him on anything with pencil guts in the background.  twin creek etulason, power plant's sire is extreme.

https://maine-anjou.digitalbeef.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=_animal&file=_animal&animal_registration=136687

 

[R180]

JDS Fireman was Maine sired by Power Plant.

and has shaver nelson on the bottom, a good thick bull. if i were to use him, i would not use him on anything with pencil guts in the background.  twin creek etulason, power plant's sire is extreme.

https://maine-anjou.digitalbeef.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=_animal&file=_animal&animal_registration=136687

Mainstream (picture on first page) is by Twin Creek Etulason and out of Robin R180 (Impact II/Columbus). 

 

[Duncraggan]

I added a couple bulls to the tank and missed out on a couple others. I was surprised how much people were willing to pay for the bulls I didn't get. It would be interesting to know where some of the volume buys went and how they plan on using it.

This bred heifer is out of an Ultimate Type cow.

This is a quality female. Would love a couple with her type in my herd!

 

[Dale]

Some of the higher BW genetics dilute well--for instance, Rodeo.  Astronaut is in the last generation of JJC Wild Side's pedigree, and Wild Side sired only one calf that required assistance at birth for us.  High Hope in the pedigree of these two Ash Valley bulls, and they have sufficient growth along with commendable calving ease.  Through selection pressure many breeders have successfully reduced birth weights, while maintaining growth.