Calving in the cold weather

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SKF

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We have a heifer who is dueto calve on Monday and she looks ready to calve anytime. We live in South Florida and we hardly ever have very cold weather but right now we are having record lows. It stayed in the 30's all day with rain suppose to get down into the 20's for the next couple of nights. My question is when she has this calf should we dry it off or just let her take care of things? I have put her in the barn but our barns are open barns for the air to blow through. I put up tarps to help block the wind. I am very worried about her having the calf during the night when we not out there with her we have never had a calf born in weather this cold. Heck we're not even us to this weather really wishing I had a heavy jacket!! :-\ Thanks!!!
 

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It's always cold here this time of year. Supposed to be -10 tonight. I always dry them off this time of year. If it's that cold I would dry it off. I always have the cows inside this time of year when they're close to calving. The barn has a 15' door open to the east but enclosed otherwise. Good luck. Hope it goes good for you.
 

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Having a dry place that is out of the wind is probably the biggest thing.  It sounds like you have that covered.  The next thing is to put some bedding down to keep the calf off the cold ground.    If she were a cow, I'd give her a little time to dry the calf off but since she is a heifer, you'll probaby want to get right in there & dry it off.  Make sure the ears get dry so they don't get frost bit.  Short eared calves are fairly normal up here but I would imagine you don't see many of those down there.    Good luck. 
 

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Sounds like you have most of it covered, prepared to help if necessary.

I have the same worries here in Iowa but the wind chill is more like -30.  I've made a few stops at the farm store lately to pick up calving supplies and tested the heater in the barn, etc.  If your worried maybe going through the list of things you might need will help you feel prepared?

Good Luck and keep us posted!

 

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When I worked on the ranch in Wyoming (over 50 calves a night when calving got well along), our mantra was "they (calves)can be cold OR they can be wet but they can't be cold AND wet".  If you think she's going to calve tonight (or tomorrow night or ...), you need to check them every 2 hours. Leaving them alone all night isn't a good idea.  Be sure they're out of the wind and like others have said, be sure they have dry straw for bedding.  Don't use shavings or sawdust.  And, sure, go ahead and dry off the calf if the mother will let you.  And, maybe the most important of all, be sure the calf nurses soon and long and often.  If you stay above 30 there, I don't think ears will frostbite.  Let us know how it all turns out!
 

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I always thought that 15 degrees or lower your % go way down. And that is with windchill figured in. At 15 degrees I think your death rate may be 50-50 at best. It all depends how fast the little burger gets up and sucks. If they get up and suck at 15 degrees I think you have a 95% shot at survival. If they drop in snow seems like the life can really get sucked out of them. jmo good luck.
 

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We calve all our spring calvers in Jan, Feb and sometimes have cold weather (down to 8) last night but some of the hardest weather on those new borns is when the temps are just above freezing and it is raining.  When that happens I like to get the calf dried off and under a heat lamp for a few hours or even overnight under the rain stops.  It is okay to take the calf away from the cow for a while to get it warmed up and may save its life.
 

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The cold is not as bad as the cold rain. I would rather calve on  dry frozen ground than mud and rain.
 

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I also wondered about the sawdust that Dori mentioned, the first thing we do on any calf born is take it  to the barn if it is below freezing , an also give them colostrum, we buy the Mana Pro  mix,  it works great an I can get it cheaper , colostrix use to be hard to handle an mix but I do think it's a good product, also Cuprem  had a good colostrum, if a calf is chilled or had been pulled  we get  them to the barn on dry bedding an get colostrum in them as quick as we can, usually by the next morning they have been up an sucked an that is a great feeling when you are calving ..  We do still have some loose part of their ears, what suggestions for trying to keep ears close to the head of a calf that the mother won't  pull off.....hear different things used an wondered what worked the best for other people ....
 

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I am sitting here smiling to myself at some of the comments here. I dream of calving in some of the weather conditions mentioned here. We don't calve as early as we used to with most of the herd, but we do get some in very cold weather. I had two calves born a few days ago when it was -35 degrees, and with the wind chill it was -48. . While they were born in a barn, it is a big old barn with is hard to keep warm unless you have it full of cows. I always let the mother dry the calf off... always unless I find the calf in very cold state after being born outside. Then they get rubbed vigorously, and then but in a hot box for 2 -3 hours. I am a believer that the mother's tongue warms the calf up better than any rubbing I could ever do. It is also part of the bonding between mom and calf and I think it stimulates the instinct in the calf to get up and nurse. Once a calf has nursed it is quite amazing how much cold they can take ( with the exception of their ears). Keeping the wind off them is important. Several years ago, I helped calve cows at a large Simmental outfit with several hundred cows,for a couple weeks in February. Their calving barn had about 20 individual pens and the mother and newborn were kept there for no more that two days, even in the worst winter weather. They were then turned out into well bedded shed, and I was always amazed how the little calves seem comfortable. On some occasions it was -40 degrees, but they were turned out regardless. The calving barn had a good sized room that was heated, and they hired a retired neighbor to check the cows at night. He would set up all his wood working tools in the heated room, and build all kinds of neat items while checking the cows every couple hours. If a cow had started calving and had not made any progress after two hours, from when she had started, he would phone one of the herdsmen to come.

When I was in college, we were told that the fluid that covers the calf when it is born, actually protects the calf from the cold a little. I tend to agree with this, except I like to see them cleaned up by their mother asap after birth.
Even in the coldest weather, I do not cover the calves ears until the mom has had a chance to clean the calf up some. Of course there are exceptions. For example, I have found calves born unexpectedly outside or in a shed, and they have some frost bite on their ears by the time I get them pulled into the barn with my trusty calf sleigh. In these cases, I warm the ears up a little with my hands, then cover them with a calf hood, or duct tape them to their body. The tuck tape method works well but you have to make sure it is not real tight around the throat.

We lose an occasional calf to the weather conditions at birth. When labor is limited, there is only so many hours a person can live with the cows. Two years ago, I had my first 100 % calf crop. There were 172 calves weaned from 171 cows. We had three sets of twins and had one set stillborn, and lost another two twins. There was one other calf lost that was a malpresentation at birth and it took too long to get it born. Of these I only assisted 3 cows during calving.  I have come close some years,  but sometimes you can't come close with the best management. For example, with last years wicked winter that ran right through until late March, I had 3 calves that had to be put down because of real bad leg breaks due to being stepped on by their mothers, or other cows. We have calf pens set up in every pen, and the calves learn very young to use them. We had about 80 cows and heifers close to calving at the same time, as we had synchronized a set of heifers, implanted 20 embryos, and turned 5 herd bulls out within  2 days in the previous spring. It was hard to know which would calve first. I remember one bitter cold -30 night, I had picked out 28 cows that I though were the closest to calving, and I pulled 7 newborns in on the sleigh in the night, with none born in the barn.( a blizzard was moving in, and when this happens, you can expect some cows will calve, regardless of when they have been fed, or even when they were due) It was 48 hours before I got out of my winter coveralls and barn clothes. I used to be able to do this much better when I was younger. At one time we calved out 350 cows and I actually enjoyed calving time. Now I have to drag my sorry butt out in the freezing cold, and hope and pray all the way to the barn that nothing is calving. I only do mid night checks in very extreme cold temps. I do a good check at 11: 30 pm and if I do not see anything acting like it is thinking of calving, I go to bed and check them again at 6:30 am. Usually if something has calved, they have just calved or are in the process of calving in the early morning. There is an occasional calf born after midnight, but I try to make sure I put her in a calving pen when I do the late night check, and then I stay up and check her every hour until it has been born. Another thing that has helped me get a liitle more sleep during calving, is that I try to feed the cows just before dark and I start this about a month before the main herd starts to calve. Over the years, I would estimate that 80-85 % of our calves are born between 6 am and feeding time in the late afternoon.

The original thread was a concern about calving when the temps are in the 30s. I dream of calving in these conditions!
 

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SKF you need to plan a week long trip up here in the north land during calving. Those little calves are really pretty tough. If you have her under roof & out of the wind & rain, she'll be fine if she calves easy. Come on up and you'll see what cold is.
 Aren't you and your wife heading to Denver? I always think that the weather is good in Denver. They never have any humidity with the cold. Good Luck with your heifer. Brent
  I haven't personally tried this yet, but I do have an old pair of panty hose down in the barn. I was told to cut the end off of the panty hose and then pull them up over the calf's head to keep their ears close to their body. Has anyone ever tried this and did it work well? Brent
 

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Brent,
haven't tried the panty hose but a rancher around here takes regular old table salt and pours it on the calves ears. Apparently the salt really makes the cow lick those ears and keep them warmed up. Haven't tried but sounds like it may work.
 

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Thanks for all the advice. Just left the barn and still no calf. The weather is better today at least the sun is out but still cold. For those of you would love our weather for calving I can not even imagine what it is like for you. I ve lived in south Florida for over 30 years and to see it stay in the 30's during the day is very rare. We normaly calve between July- Oct when it is very warm.

CAB- I could not survive a week up north!!!!  :) I always love seeing pictures of snow and thought I wanted to see snow in person but after the last few days you guys can keep your snow. I found out I am a real wimp when it comes to the cold.
 

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We are looking forward to that 30 F weather this next week.  Seems like we are all about 20 deg colder than normal for our areas of the country.   
 

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SKF. I just think you are much smarter than the rest of us. The more years go by, the more I wonder why we don't move further south. It's funny what you get used to. I'm like Grant, I used to not be able to get enough of calving. Now as it gets closer, the more I wonder why I don't breed later so that Mother nature could help me out instead of hurt me.
 

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About five years ago we built a giant pole barn and outfitted it with cameras on every stall.  Last year we literally watched the superbowl and watched a set of twins come in the world!  Cows don't get stressed or stop labor progression because we walk in and we check the cows by walking in the livingroom and watch the tv in our jammies no more spot lighting the fields and pulling all those clothes on and going to the barn every hour.  I know this doesn't work for big operations but we run about a hundred and it's the best thing we've ever done!
 

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Dori is right about cold being OK as long as they aren't wet.  The absolute worst calving situation, IMHO, is when it's somewhere right around 32 & either raining or several inches of wet snow on the ground.  In those situations, you better have a barn/shed so they can get/stay dry. 

FWIW, I had a 1/4 Lowline X 1/4 Mini Herf X 1/4 Angus X 1/4 Simmi cow calve a few days ago when it was just above single digits here.  She had a Lowline sired heifer calf that weighed right around 30 lbs.  The sun was shinning, the ground was frozen hard with no snow on it.  Also, we have a decent amount of grass.  The cow picked a low spot near a brush pile & a tree line that was well protected from the wind & I just let the cow do her thing right out in the pasture.  It's gotten even colder here, I still haven't done a thing & the calf is doing great.  We do have a couple of big Oil Tanks cut in half (open in the front & vented in the back) to make huts for wind/weather protection.  After laying outside most of the first day, the cow started taking the calf into those huts (cows aren't stupid).  Anyway, if a calf that small can thrive in near single digits with no human intervention, if the momma has any mothering instincts at all, you should be MORE THAN OK in 20's & 30's weather if you have a little bedding & shelter.  I'd still keep an eye on them, but I wouldn't worry too much.                       

     
 

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aj said:
Dori...what is your thought on shavings or sawdust?

I don't like calving on sawdust or shavings because with the inevitable " in and out" during the birthing process of the wet, still in the sack calf, some of the sawdust/shavings gets sucked into the birth canal.  Not to mention that the calf is covered with it including in their eyes.  I just figure it's cleaner all the way around with straw.  After the calf is a little older,  I have no problem with sawdust or shavings.  It's just during the calving process that I don't care for it.  I also like straw because in cold weather in a cold barn, a calf can bury themselves in it for a little bit of "insulation".  Here's a picture of a calf whose dam built this nest for him right after he had nursed for the first time!  I was amazed when I came back out to check on them.
 

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