Cookie Monster was a blazed face Full Flush x Meyer 734 raised by Roger Hainy and owned with Harkema and Klingner. He would have had a very strong maternal background as all Hainy cattle did, he made good females back then (early 2000's). He was plenty gentle too. M&M was a Phil Lautner bull, may have been on the straight side from what I remember. He was a Heat Seeker x Payback. Both bulls could use more belly for today's times would probably be best used on Ohlde type cows.