Duncraggan
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I'm with XBAR on this. Ideally one should only breed the lower 30-50% of one's herd to the terminal breed sire and, as implied by the word terminal, sell all the progeny to the feedlot!JTM said:XBAR, for the record I'm looking to sell both purebred and crossbred bulls. I don't know if it's possible to convince you of the usefullness of crossbred bulls but I think Till -Hill made a really good point. Who wants to keep that three way cross from a Charolais bull for a replacement heifer? Wouldn't you have to buy several bulls and manage the herd in order to get some replacements, hopefully heifers, and then some for terminal calves, hopefully bull calves? All I'm asking is that you look outside of the box a little and consider a different angle to things which may be more of what happens in a lot of herds. I've read all the expert articles in Beef magazine and so forth, I understand heterosis/hybrid vigor, and all I'm saying is that crossbred bulls have a place in the commercial market for herd sires. Good cattle are cattle that make good cattle. When you are talking about commercial animals with similar phenotype and traits, not talking about club calf breeding, then your ability to produce consistent cattle will be just fine in my opinion.-XBAR- said:Till-Hill said:Commercial herd (angus) using a PB or FB Sim bull, what would they do with the resulting heifers as a mating then?
You breed them to a terminal sire of a 3rd breed (Id use Charolais) to create the most desirable feeder calf- the 3 way cross. You ought to get plenty of milk out of the true simangus f1 which will help the char sired calf maximize his potential.
Thanks for chiming in Jamie. It's refreshing to hear an opinion from someone not trying to sell crossbred bulls.
Your replacement females come from the upper 50-70% of your breeding herd and are progeny of the original two breed rotation sires.
The percentage of the cowherd put to the terminal sire would depend on your cowherd attrition rate and, if you calve at two years, this can be adjusted fairly quickly to compensate.