ELECTION 08

[knabe]

gynocentric thought is by it's very nature, discrminatory.

compassionate conservatism is really just liberalism repacked to get 5% of the vote necessary to win an election.  it has nothing to do with conservatism.

progressive's constantly are changing the definition of words.  conservatives like to keep them the same.  this is why the country will never be "united".  in some's eye's, united simply means the other side disappears.  they never have inclusion in mind.  the progressive movement's obsession with diversity merely seeks to eliminate it as quickly as possible.  with everyone multicultural, where will one go to get their dose of culture?  this is the paradox of having it both ways.  it just doesn't make sense.  but try explaining it to them and they call you racist, sexist, etc.  name calling is so third grade. 

progressives are simply collectivists in a cultural way, as well as a financial way.  again, i just wish they would finance their own agenda with their own money instead of taxing people who don't agree with them.  equal results are more important to progressives than equal opportunity.  progressives must continually massage the data to get their desired results.

i would like a progressive to describe the end game in their idealized society and run on that instead of just spouting "we are going in the wrong direction", "we need change".

why does government always have to be involved?  it's essentially a replacement of religion with another religion, where man, er woman, is worshipped.

 

[knabe]

this is pretty funny

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-homeschool6mar06,1,4399394.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
State appellate court says those who teach children in private must have a credential.

I would think that all that is required is that they passed the tests that are issued as a barometer of success.  schools are so scared of competition, they will do anything to protect their benefits by mandating a captive audience.


“Parents do not have a constitutional right to home school their children,” wrote Justice H. Walter Croskey in a Feb. 28 opinion signed by the two other members of the district court. “Parents who fail to [comply with school enrollment laws] may be subject to a criminal complaint against them, found guilty of an infraction, and subject to imposition of fines or an order to complete a parent education and counseling program.”

how long will it be before  “Parents do not have a constitutional right to their children”?  in some's mind, this has already happened, especially at the state level in CA, where difference of opinion is not tolerated.

as usual, there is a little more to it than reported here.  will follow up later.

 

[Dusty]

I get a bang out of all crazy laws out there in The People's Republic of California.  No offense Knabe but I truly think that California and America would both be better off if it was its own country.

 

[fluffer]

And in my opinion, the father should have to sign off before a woman can have an abortion, I have never understood that, he should have the same right as the mother, if you don't want to carry his child, don't sleep with him, not rocket science to me.  Something else I don't understand, if you have an auto accident and kill a pregnant woman it's murder, but if you abort that same baby it is a choice, how is that justified?

Abortion is such a difficult issue.  When I had my baby, my husband and I did not get the genetic testing done.  We felt the only reason you would have that done is if you would terminate the pregnancy for an unfavorable genetic issue.  Our daughter was born just find and I feel very blessed about that.  I am pro life, however, I don't feel it is the governments job to force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want to have.  There are so many if's, or but's about this I can't count them all, but what about the women who were raped?  What about the women who's life is in jeopardy by carrying that baby?  What about a women who is a drug addict and wants to have an abortion.

I do think that someone who is carrying a baby and she is murdered it should be 2 counts.  Regardless of if the killer knew she was pregnant or not- if he/she murdered they should get the book thrown at them.

I would also like to say that each person has their own right to their beliefs of Abortion.  I would NEVER try to change their stance.

Fluffer

 

[knabe]

I get a bang out of all crazy laws out there in The People's Republic of California.  No offense Knabe but I truly think that California and America would both be better off if it was its own country.

no offense taken, or even remotely observed on sensors.  for a different perspective: sorry, it's kinda long, and probably repeated from before.
  DEMOCRAT
You have two cows.
            Your neighbor has none.
            You feel guilty for being successful.
         
            REPUBLICAN
          You have two cows.
            Your neighbor has none.
            So?
         
            SOCIALIST
          You have two cows.
            The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.
            You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow.
         
            COMMUNIST
          You have two cows.
            The government seizes both and provides you with milk.
            You wait in line for hours to get it.
            It is expensive and sour.
         
            CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE
          You have two cows.
            You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.
         
            BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE
          You have two cows.
            Under the new farm program the government pays you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the
            drain.
         
            AMERICAN CORPORATION
          You have two cows.
            You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one.           
You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows.
You are surprised when one cow drops dead.
You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have down sized and are reducing expenses.
            Your stock goes up.
         
            FRENCH CORPORATION
          You have two cows.
            You go on strike because you want three cows.
            You go to lunch and drink wine.
            Life is good.
   
            JAPANESE CORPORATION
          You have two cows.
            You redesign
            them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.
            They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains.
            Most are at the top of their class at cow school.
         
            GERMAN CORPORATION
          You have two cows.
            You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk, and run a hundred miles an hour.
            Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year.
   
            ITALIAN CORPORATION
          You have two cows but you don't know where they are.
            While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman.
            You break for lunch.Life is good.
         
            RUSSIAN CORPORATION
          You have two cows.
            You have some vodka.
            You count them and learn you have five cows.
            You have some more vodka.
            You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
            The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have.
         
            TALIBAN CORPORATION
           

            You have all the cows in Afghanistan , which are
            two.
            You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private parts.
            You get a $40 million grant from the US government to find alternatives to milk production but use the money to buy weapons.
         
            IRAQI CORPORATION
          You have two cows.
            They go into hiding. They send radio tapes of their mooing.
         
            POLISH CORPORATION
          You have two bulls.
            Employees are regularly maimed and killed attempting to milk them.
         

            BELGIAN CORPORATION
          You have one cow.
            The cow is schizophrenic.
            Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times he's Flemish.
            The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow.
            The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's milk.
            The cow asks permission to be cut in half.
            The cow dies happy.
         
            FLORIDA CORPORATION
          You have a black cow and a brown cow.
            Everyone votes for the best looking one.
          Some of the people who actually like the brown one best accidentally vote for the black one.
            Some people vote for both.
            Some people vote for neither.
            Some people can't figure out how to vote at all.
            Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which one you think is the best-looking cow.
         
            CALIFORNIA CORPORATION
          You have millions of cows.
            They make real California cheese.
            Only five speak English.
            Most are illegal.
            Arnold likes the ones with the big udders.
         

 

[knabe]

logically, this is what progressive freedom is all about.  george lakoff of berkeley may not exactly spell this freedom out in his book " Whose Freedom?
The Battle over America's Most Important Idea", but his logic can not deny the path.  by the way, lakoff uses the phrase "framing the debate" to not allow hijacking of threads and he is the sole arbiter of what is framed so oppenents can't defeat him in a debate.  the emporer has no clothes comes to mind.

http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/people/lakoff        is george lakoff's institute and coginitive studies money train.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,540831,00.html

"Must consensual sex between close relatives be punished? Germany's highest court is about to rule whether incest will continue to result in a jail term. It is referring to the case of a brother and sister who have already had four children together."

"His sister Susan K. was born eight years later, and he didn't meet her until he was 23."

"It's impossible, or at least very hard to prove that consensual incest does such damage."

"In October 2001 Katrin gave birth to their first child. A social worker suspected that her brother was the father and reported them to the police. In 2002 Patrick was first taken to court. He got a one-year suspended sentence. Then, they hade a second child. The first two children are slightly physically disabled and are a little slow mentally as well. They were both taken into foster care. They then had a third child which had a heart problem, but which is now completely healthy after a heart operation."

"One can't put this poor person in jail again," said his lawyer Endrik Wilhelm."

i guess one could say line breeding could fix this with heavy culling.  i'm guessing the heavy culling part society couldn't deal with unless eugenics made a dramatic comeback. 

remember, in CA, a 3 judge panel just ruled parents have no constitutional right to homeschool without a credential.  doesn't matter if they excel.  i'm just wondering how much of a stretch it would be for the 3 judge panel to restrict pregnancy unless it was in the state interest.  i wonder what percentage of the population would poll to actually be infavor of that.  gotta be around 15%, at least in CA.

 

[knabe]

spoken like a true fiscally conservative democrat

    Thomas Jefferson made a similar prediction in a letter to James Madison dated March 6, 1796, challenging Madison’s proposition for improvements to roads used in a system of national mail delivery. Jefferson wrote:

    Have you considered all the consequences of your proposition respecting post roads? I view it as a source of boundless patronage to the executive, jobbing to members of Congress & their friends, and a bottomless abyss of public money. You will begin by only appropriating the surplus of the post office revenues; but the other revenues will soon be called into their aid, and it will be a scene of eternal scramble among the members, who can get the most money wasted in their State; and they will always get most who are meanest.

it always confused me though that jefferson thought very little about spending taxpayer money in france.  on the other hand, he appeared almost as successful as franklin, and defintately more successful than adams at getting funding.  perhaps, it was the trio that made it work, rather than any one individual.  and that coonskin hat of franklin's everyone thought he was such a reanaissance man.

next book.  democracy in america.

 

[Dusty]

this is pretty funny

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-homeschool6mar06,1,4399394.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
State appellate court says those who teach children in private must have a credential.

I would think that all that is required is that they passed the tests that are issued as a barometer of success.  schools are so scared of competition, they will do anything to protect their benefits by mandating a captive audience.


“Parents do not have a constitutional right to home school their children,” wrote Justice H. Walter Croskey in a Feb. 28 opinion signed by the two other members of the district court. “Parents who fail to [comply with school enrollment laws] may be subject to a criminal complaint against them, found guilty of an infraction, and subject to imposition of fines or an order to complete a parent education and counseling program.”

how long will it be before  “Parents do not have a constitutional right to their children”?  in some's mind, this has already happened, especially at the state level in CA, where difference of opinion is not tolerated.

as usual, there is a little more to it than reported here.  will follow up later.

Glenn Beck was talking about this the other night.  When he got to the part about "Parent do not have a constitutional right to home school their children," he said and I love this, "They can have my children right after they take my gun."  He hit the nail on the head.

 

[knabe]

here is a photo of the twisted gun at the UN.  the UN is doing everything it can to do both, with your tax dollar.

 

[knabe]

i want to marry my grandmother so it will make asset transfer easy, including social security, even after she dies.

can't believe it took this long for people to figure this out.

http://www.redstate.com/2013/04/05/why-not-incest/

Could a father not marry his son? … It’s not incest between men. Incest is there to protect us from inbreeding, but men don’t breed… If that were so, then if I wanted to pass on my estate without death [taxes], I could marry my son and pass on my estate to him.