Favorite bull to pretty up/extend a front end? / I80 calves (pictures)

[RankeCattleCo]

What bull have you guys had luck with to lengthen a neck on one? On a first calf Milkman heifer we used I80 and it really did not give us a good front end. From the shoulders back its a 8k calf but his front is just straight ugly.  Maybe if we can't get extension with I80 we won't get it with any bull? I will add a professional picture by the end of this week. The dam is a Milkman/Maverick by the way.

Thanks guys!
RCC

 

[LLBUX]

Hannibal throws longer necks/heads.    Frame them up too if you need.

 

[Gargan]

I80

 

[ROMAX]

WHO MADE WHO

 

[DL]

Calberta Black Impact (the bull formerly known as Booty Call)

 

[AAOK]

DMCC Polaroid 29S, but will also add frame.

 

[OH Breeder]

Few years back we had a Calberta Black impact out of a WMW x Maine cow. I have never seen a front end like that gal had. She was super clean fronted and sound. We wondered if she was part deer. She grew in to it and made a beautiful female.  If you have any doubts with soundness STAY AWAY from who. He can cripple one fast. But when he is good, he is good. Black impact gave the female the size she needed while being moderated by WMW.
Hannibal works to clean them up but if they aren't deep sided or plenty of volume he can make them tall and shallow. Believe it or not Northern Improvement worked for us on some of our Simmi females to make them tick cleaner in shoulder and front end. Sin City will throw pretty fronts but little size with it.
not sure if this helps much....JMO

 

[Telos]

I think both the Milkman (Heatwave) and Maverick (Sooner) genetics cause insult to injury,RCC. Both have some chunky fronted genetics in their pedigree. Trying I-80 another time might give you what want. It all depends on how those genes play out. I'd try something similar again. Maybe a  I-80 half blood that is clean fronted. Always be careful and try something that is known for good feet and legs. I personally like something with a little more Angus with that cow.

 

[Bulldaddy]

I have used Walks Alone of SimAngus cows with mostly good results.  He really cleans up front ends if that is what you are trying to do.

 

[chambero]

Second Walks Alone for modern club calf bulls

 

[RankeCattleCo]

Thanks for the replies guys! The two calves from these heifers this year will be selling on Travis Allen's online sale next Wednesday the 25th as lots 13 & 14. I'll put a link at the bottom.

First is the I-80 x Milkman x Maverick. Heavier muscled, just choked necked. He was 78 lbs at birth. Little numbers game, her dam cost us $2000 as a 600 pounder.

Next is the I-80 x Milkman x Angus. Cleaner front, just more moderate bone and muscle. He was 65 lbs at birth. Her dam ran us $2250 as a 600 pounder...

Overall I am very happy with the calves and I-80's calving ease. Got to very sellable calves!

Link to Allen's sale: http://www.maxanet.com/cgi-bin/mndetails.cgi?willoughby

 

[sizzler14]

yeah i-80 didnt help you a bit. i have clipped some and seen a lot of those BIMS that look part giraffe. if your cows are dirty, I would try cerveza or mossy oak.

 

[RankeCattleCo]

Gonna pull hair to test them here when we preg check them. Hopefully at least one is clean to use some BIM or Walks. We don't need much frame, so which one will get em a little smaller?

 

[Telos]

I don't know if there is semen available, but Dejong Ranch has a bull they call "I Deliver" that has about the best front with a combination of all the other parts. You can see a pic of him on their Website regarding the female sale.

Monopoly actually worked great on both your cows. I still would stay in the same ballpark. Those are two nice calves.

 

[RankeCattleCo]

Telos- these are actually I80's out of first calf heifers. Monopoly is on our breeding list- if they're THF. Also thinking about BIM to pretty up that front end. Any thoughts?

Bred to a more maternal bull we are happy with the calves. We're excited to see what's they throw us in the future when bred to home run hitters like Monopoly, BIM, Troubadour, etc.!

 

[rackranch]

Walks Alone X Shorthorn.. Really pretty/fancy fronted.

 

[Telos]

Telos- these are actually I80's out of first calf heifers. Monopoly is on our breeding list- if they're THF. Also thinking about BIM to pretty up that front end. Any thoughts?

Bred to a more maternal bull we are happy with the calves. We're excited to see what's they throw us in the future when bred to home run hitters like Monopoly, BIM, Troubadour, etc.!

Sorry. I meant I-80. I would use something similar in genetics to him because it looks like it worked well. That "I Deliver" bull of Dejong's might be a bull worth checking into, IMO. He has about the same percentage Maine as I-80. Dejong has literally spent a life time breeding for the best fronts.