ROAD WARRIOR said:
Make no mistake about it - bulls that are less than a frame score 5 get a knife ran through them. My customers won't buy them and even as steers they get docked at the sale barn. Personally I am in the business to make the most money off of the cow herd that I can, it's all about dollars and cents - profit and loss - black and white, I am not terribly concerned with the number of cows per acre - I am concerned about dollars per acre. As far as Kit Pharo goes - he sends me his propaganda monthly and I laugh - it is a class in self promotion with out a doubt. Actually three of my best commercial bull customers are former Pharo customers from Missouri. I absolutely love to have calves out of one of my bulls acrossed the fence from calves that his bulls sire, it almost insures I will have a new bull customer the next year. No doubt in his country they work for him and he is quite a promoter , I will give him that but this isn't the desert region of Colorado where I live. My first Pharo convert stated that not only were the calves sired by my bulls on an average 43 pounds heavier at weaning, they also didn't get docked at the sale barn for being (in his words) short and stubby. I have spent a considerable amount of time traveling the US and Canada looking at cattle. The commercial cattle I have seen in the south are typically smaller than our typical commercial cow and the commercials in Canada are bigger than ours. My herd will not save the beef industry from self destruction and yours won't either. You want to run 1 1/4 more cows per acre - I want to make 1 1/4 more money per acre. 1 cow that generates $20,000 a year is better than 5 that generate $3000 a piece in my book. RW
I was just using Kit Pharo as an example. I never implied & I'm not going to imply anything one way or the other about Pharo or his cattle other than to say 4 things...
*** I don't agree with Kit 100% on everything.
***Right, wrong or other, he IS marketing them & that was my point.
***A WHOLE LOT of Kit's cattle aren't even a Frame 4! He sells lots of genetics that are frame 2's & 3's & a few even smaller than that! So just because SOME OF HIS stuff didn't necessarily work, doesn't mean that a frame 4.5 wont.
***Yes, Kit self promotes, I self promote & you are on Steer Planet self promoting too.
You took his customers, he takes other peoples customers & I take other peoples customers. A lot of that customer swapping is because people can see the calves across the fence (but, it's better when they see different genetics in the same pasture!). It happens both ways. Not saying it doesn't. I run multi-breeds & sizes... it's the best marketing tool that I have going, by far!
I was talking frame 4.5 cattle, but if you ONLY want to talk "dollars per acre", I'm guessing that my smaller fullblood Lowlines would be very competitive with just about anything.
