Full Blood Maine Weekly Update

[Telos]

Looks like a nice sale. Lot 27 is my pick in the Fullblood department. Buret X Mel's Semi-Automatic super combination and took an impressive picture.
Outcross for those Shorthorn folks and would play off with those Sonny's.

Lot 50 looks super with an interesting pedigree. She would work in numerous operations. She has Paramount along with some other powerful genetics. Wonder if she is PHAC?

 

[CWCCattle]

Looks like a nice sale. Lot 27 is my pick in the Fullblood department. Buret X Mel's Semi-Automatic super combination and took an impressive picture.
Outcross for those Shorthorn folks and would play off with those Sonny's.

Lot 50 looks super with an interesting pedigree. She would work in numerous operations. She has Paramount along with some other powerful genetics. Wonder if she is PHAC?

From seeing them in person this is an awesome set of Maine animals. 

I have never tested for TH or PHA so not sure on that point.  How do you go about testing that?  I'm still working on learning the business and how to do these things. 

If she caught to CWC Zip 53Z I think that combination could produce a heck of a calf.  He was lot 10 in our 2013 Fullblood sale (www.foundationssale.com).  We'll find out tomorrow when we preg check them.

 

[Promiseland]

I have a Pld FB female that is a full sister to the Gee Bar Super Dude bull.. She is turning 16 and plan on a few long overdue and much deserved flushes on her. I am hoping to do 1 or 2 FB flushes on her. Has been one of the very best cows of any breed I have been associated with!! Have only bred her FB once (Cunia) and got an alright bull calf. Other than that she has been the backbone to my Shorthorn herd and her lineage continues to produce my best year after year.  She is moderate framed female, pretty good milker and keeper. Have been told General Jackson on her but was wondering if anyone had any ideas and or advice.  Thank you in advance.

 

[knabe]

How did you come to purchase her?

Thats a rather prominent fullblood to have and not reproduce her earlier.

Can we see a picture?

In general, polled fullbloods can suffer from not attractive hips, especially males and especiallly polled, ie more culls unless one is wiling to keep trying.

Without a pic i cant really make a recommendation other than to keep it old, but then youmrun the risk of semen quality on older cow.

I would use a polled bull and a horned bull if i were you.

I would also use a bull that smicrosatellite parentage is available and get your cow's microsatellites done as well.  They are both done for both parents of your cow. That way you can register offsspring in both associations. I am trying to get genral jackson into the canadian association. I have some at sek.

The above bull is nice as well.

 

[knabe]

Actually general jackson just showed up in cmaa

http://abri.une.edu.au/online/cgi-bin/i4.dll?1=20352036&2=2420&3=56&5=2B3C2B3C3A&6=59245C5A582521252D&9=5F5F5F50

Not sure why the dna file number doesnt show up.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Are there any pictures ogf Genral Jackson or any progeny? Ive had several people say Hed work on a Shorthorn-as long as they were not high BW genetics-AND YES THEY EXIST O0

 

[Telos]

Mark, I have tried to find a photo of him. Seen his offspring many years ago in Texas. They have a lot of grow and get pretty framey out of moderate framed Fullbloods. Cannot remember feet and legs but probably good in that respect. When you look at Black Maine genetics, he seems to have all the genetic components to play off Cunia influenced cattle. IMO, he needs to be downsized, especially from a pedigree perspective. He can really add a good profile with nice lines and a long clean neck, but probably will not be the best for calving ease.

 

[knabe]

there's a lot of thickness and length in his pedigree.

a little bit of outcross as well on the bottom.

ajm eclat is similarly bred on the bottom.

http://abri.une.edu.au/online/cgi-bin/i4.dll?1=20352036&2=2420&3=56&5=2B3C2B3C3A&6=59245C5B2627232721&9=5F5F5B5C

 

[doc-sun]

fullblood tidal wave heifer (426189) with mma handy 20y (424504) heifer calf born unassisted. 4 heifer calves so far by handy (2 fb & 2 3/4 black) all unassisted. no bulls yet.

update: looks like handy will work on blacks too and calve easy as he is a smaller
fullblood. we will have semen soon.
                                               
http://www.maine-anjou.org/pagedisplay.php?id=372823

 

[doc-sun]

yukon at the trough and slash breeding cows

 

[knabe]

really like the looks of yukon.  his cannon bones are shorter than most fullbloods (a good thing).  he is thick and smooth, especially his flat shoulder.

 

[Telos]

Both really good looking, high quality bulls. Hard to fault those two.

 

[Barry Farms]

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Yukon looks better every time you post him.

 

[knabe]

Lot 50 looks super with an interesting pedigree. She would work in numerous operations. She has Paramount along with some other powerful genetics. Wonder if she is PHAC?

http://www.cattlevids.ca/2013/maineway2013.html

videos are up.  50 (purebred) looks good.

 

[oakview]

Why do you have the picture of Tom Harkin?

 

[knabe]

Why do you have the picture of Tom Harkin?

Because he smiles while he says "regime we are building for america"

 

[Telos]

Doc-Sun or anyone have info on Manitou's Zurich other then pedigree?  He's pictured on Manitou's Website and looks hard to fault with an outcross pedigree. Super internal dimension.

 

[knabe]

here's his sire, maybe. i think he's also the bull advertised for 25K in shorthorn country. 

http://www.maine-anjou.fr/uploads/rte/File/RougePres_fichesTaureaux/Tendon.pdf

 

[Telos]

Knabe, I like the pic of this Tendon daughter, Zurich's sire. Not so much mass but design. Zurich has a lot of white and maybe too much for those breeders wanting solid color but I would think Shorthorn breeders could get excited.

Manitou's Perelly also looks super complete. Hard to say anything bad about this guy, IMO.
http://www.manitoumaineanjou.ca/index.php?page=gallery/indimg.php&indid=106&catid=13

 

[RyanChandler]

SH breeders want shorthorns.  The maternal breed needs long, flat muscled easy fleshing cattle- characteristics which are antagonistic to the strength of Maines.