Full Blood Maine Weekly Update

[RyanChandler]

I agree. Some of the other bulls posted have had weak tops too.  This Yukon bull I like a lot though.

 

[knabe]

It is my opinion that the break behind the withers is a major fault in Maines that is easy to get even in Purebreds.

This is why it should be a priority to make some new Purebreds without cunia in addition to his two defects as well as him having one of the worst marbling epd's in the breed. The faster the breed dumps him, the better.

Hopefully he's a good candidate of markers devoid of marbling.

 

[knabe]

I agree. Some of the other bulls posted have had weak tops too.  This Yukon bull I like a lot though.

and some do not.  the contrast was posted on purpose.

 

[doc-sun]

I agree. Some of the other bulls posted have had weak tops too.  This Yukon bull I like a lot though.

and some do not.  the contrast was posted on purpose.

yukon could be better topped but is not bad considering his volume. i think 4 mos in the cooler by day and out for exercise at night along with rinsing and working his hair will do the trick. look at his picture and just think what 2" of hair and a clip job will do.

 

[Telos]

I really like this bull, Doc-Sun. He just looks like a more fault free kind of bull but still has enough power then most. I think he has a better design and is proportioned better then Cunia. He needs to be shown off at the Royal.

You know I like those two other calves as well. How is the Darco coming along?

 

[oakview]

I heard one of our past ASA executive secretaries state that Cunia was one of the two most impressive mature bulls of any breed he had seen.  Believe me, he'd seen a lot of them.  I had 3 Cunia X Shorthorn cows and I wish I still had them.  Are you Maine breeders sour on him mainly because of the 2 defects?  I always thought he was popular because of his relative calving ease and his ability to pretty them up a little.   

 

[doc-sun]

I heard one of our past ASA executive secretaries state that Cunia was one of the two most impressive mature bulls of any breed he had seen.  Believe me, he'd seen a lot of them.  I had 3 Cunia X Shorthorn cows and I wish I still had them.  Are you Maine breeders sour on him mainly because of the 2 defects?  I always thought he was popular because of his relative calving ease and his ability to pretty them up a little. 

i am not sour on cunia at all except for the fact that he and epinal are in most maine pedigrees multiple times top and bottom. i am trying to offer and raise better more modern bulls with outcross pedigrees.

 

[Telos]

I think Cunia had the ability to thicken, downsize and add maternal milk better then any Maine that was imported. With that said, Cunia rarely or directly sired national champions. It's of different opinions what he worked best on but you will usually find him in black Maine's that have some Novino derivatives (Epinal, Etulason, Covino III etc.) along with some of those big power boys that where notorious for being hard calvers such as Bysantin, Univers, Loujou, Dalton and numerous others. It is almost impossible to find a high profile purebred or percentage Maine without Cunia especially on the maternal side. Black Gold probably was his most successful son. He was double bred Cunia and probably had some Chianina x Angus as the base cow.

 

[knabe]

i'm not sour on cunia.  i just wish people would try something else.

from a commercial standpoint, it would not be a good thing to be known as a marble remover.

my biggest concern is his carcass, and yes, the other two defects are annoying.

they probably will both be testable shortly, so not that big of a deal.

 

[oakview]

Thanks for the clarifications.  Perhaps I read more into some of the previous comments than was intended.  I always held Cunia in high regard.  By the way, I think the Yukon bull would look good in my pasture and probably most of the other pastures that I can think of.

 

[knabe]

Here's some Fullbloods in the Netherlands I think

Page loads slow. Others are simmi's

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Album=A4FQYQFE

 

[RyanChandler]

Please post some links to Fullblood Maine breeder's websites so I can see whats out there.  I can only find a few through google.

 

[knabe]

Do you want to buy or kick tires.

 

[RyanChandler]

Do you want to buy or kick tires.

I always kick the tires before I buy 

 

[knabe]

Well. Most of the info is not on the web. Doc-son is probably your best bet.

Otherwise you will have to go to Canada for DNA verified pedigrees that don't contain cunia.

Most in the states has cunia and are not verified.

If you like Cunia, there is plenty around.

 

[knabe]

Heres the english translation of the german page

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&u=http://maine-anjou.de/

Basically just a few german breeders starting out with some cattle from their french friends.

They use the semen list from the french association and are aware of the double muscling gene.

 

[RyanChandler]

http://tugsmaineanjou.com/

http://www.manitoumaineanjou.ca/

http://magpiemaines.webs.com/sires.htm

http://www.eaglebutteranch.com/maine%20anjou%20cattle.htm

http://www.4jfamilypartnership.com/p/fullbloods.html

here's a few links to some breeders.  Only place I saw heifers listed for sale had nice stock but they're bws ranged from 105-140 

 

[knabe]

You missed hermosa cattle.com

Like i said, you wont find many more on web.

Everybody mostly knows who everybody is.

Doc-son will help you out if you are truly interested.

The birth weights in general are going to be bigger than angus, but there are some that are not like you indicated.

You are going to have to visit with people and find out at some point by trying something.

Trust your own eye for your own goals.

 

[knabe]

Here's a Fullblood used on shorthorns.

 

[garybob]

Here's a Fullblood used on shorthorns.

Who was he, Knabe?

GB