I give in--- to all shorthorn people--
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kfacres
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justintime
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Cut the BS said:
OK... I'm lost. Just what did I admit to?
kfacres
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justintime said:
that you know the source- and your bull produced a son- which produced excessive birth weights--- for whatever reason... duh... I'm saying, we were both right. ;D
justintime
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BS... for a few short moments I thought I had gotten through to you. No we are NOT both right. I originally replied to your original comment which was " one of the owners of Timeline - used him on 20-25 cows - and averaged 120 lb calves - and would never use him again." That statement you made is TOTALLY WRONG... and that is why I posted. You really need to verify your sources before you make comments like this. As I told you in a PM I sent you, I have heard about sons of some well known calving ease bulls that have been calving disasters but I would not be posting their names or their owners, as I do not think that is right and proper. WE WERE NOT BOTH RIGHT! YOU WERE WRONG AND OBVIOUSLY HAVEN"T LEARNED ANYTHING. Here I actually thought you were starting to " get it" Guess I was totally wrong on that one!
kfacres
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justintime said:
minus one word-- that statement is correct- and you even agreed.. and that is "owner".
The correct part would be: "users' of a son"
You are correct, in that the particular person- was not an owner--- but in fact- every other word I used: was correct.
justintime
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BS... I never agreed with your original statement at all. This guy did not average 120 lbs on this bulls calves. He did say he had some bigger calves than he liked but some were a nice size as well. Good grief, when will you ever learn to verify some facts before you start to type !
jaimiediamond
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I think this thread has become redundant. I do not think the accusations about some of the members being liars is at all justified but I know these people, and I have seen them making business dealings. I sometimes think you twist what people say for example you used my statement "sitting on the fence of indecision" way out of context intentionally or unintentionally I do not know.
Jody before you judge via steerplanet I really recommend you take your wife on a vacation, visit some herds north of the boarder, and let the cows do the talking...
Jody before you judge via steerplanet I really recommend you take your wife on a vacation, visit some herds north of the boarder, and let the cows do the talking...
kfacres
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I bet she says a vacation-- will be time AWAY from livestock and farming... (lol)jaimiediamond said:
it may be pointless-- -but it keeps people reading and posting...
thunderdownunder
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Mr Big Load of BS..... you STILL have not answered the question.
WHERE have you provided proof of the "liars from up north"?
This is typical of you; get backed into a corner and go off on a tangent attacking someone else. Something which, by the way, could put you in a lot of nasty legal trouble. If I was JIT I'd seriously be getting some papers drawn up right about now. Your constant attacks on a bull which you personally have had nothing to do with are unwarranted and tasteless, not to metnion tiresome. No one here cares what you think about Timeline. Personally, I think the proof is in the pudding; how many Timeline calves have you had the pleasure of assessing? No actually, don't answer that.
Answer the original goddamn question. Where is your proof of the "liars up north"?
WHERE have you provided proof of the "liars from up north"?
This is typical of you; get backed into a corner and go off on a tangent attacking someone else. Something which, by the way, could put you in a lot of nasty legal trouble. If I was JIT I'd seriously be getting some papers drawn up right about now. Your constant attacks on a bull which you personally have had nothing to do with are unwarranted and tasteless, not to metnion tiresome. No one here cares what you think about Timeline. Personally, I think the proof is in the pudding; how many Timeline calves have you had the pleasure of assessing? No actually, don't answer that.
Answer the original goddamn question. Where is your proof of the "liars up north"?
jaimiediamond
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thunderdownunder said:
He will never be able to answer that question as there is no justification in the accusation.
kfacres
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OK folks... going to lay all my cards out-- and make JIT a deal he can't refuse... If he does- then that'll be the truth..
JIT- Why don't you post the name of the producer- who purchased a Timeline son-- and bred with him-- and then got all the 120 lb calves.. You know, the one that you and I discussed in the PM.
you post his name-- and I'll never again mention that bull's name- Timeline that is... and I won't poke fun at our pedigree wizard anymore either
Hell that's a deal all Canadians and Australians alike--- can't refuse..
JIT- Why don't you post the name of the producer- who purchased a Timeline son-- and bred with him-- and then got all the 120 lb calves.. You know, the one that you and I discussed in the PM.
you post his name-- and I'll never again mention that bull's name- Timeline that is... and I won't poke fun at our pedigree wizard anymore either
Hell that's a deal all Canadians and Australians alike--- can't refuse..
justintime
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Cut the BS said:OK folks... going to lay all my cards out-- and make JIT a deal he can't refuse... If he does- then that'll be the truth..
JIT- Why don't you post the name of the producer- who purchased a Timeline son-- and bred with him-- and then got all the 120 lb calves.. You know, the one that you and I discussed in the PM.
you post his name-- and I'll never again mention that bull's name- Timeline that is... and I won't poke fun at our pedigree wizard anymore either
Hell that's a deal all Canadians and Australians alike--- can't refuse..
No I won't post the name of the guy because I know that talking about someone behind their back, and especially on an open forum like this... is totally wrong, and I cannot believe that your mama did not teach you this somewhere along the line. I never told you in my PM either for the same reason. And by the way, he never told me he had 120 lb calves ,... all he told me that she got some calves bigger than he liked. He did not buy the bull from me is another reason I would never post his name. And if you happened to read my PM I told you that I did know that this bull was from a simply huge cow that has some huge BWs behind her. I also told you that I'm not sure what the bloodlines of his cows were, as there possibly could be some BW issues in the background there as well. As I said to you, we don't know all the factors that caused the BW issues he had, as some may have come from the bull, some may have come from the combination of genetcis from both the parents, some could have been partly his management, and some clould have been environmental. Lots of guys have told me their BWs have dropped at least 10 lbs after this mild winter as compared to last winter which was frickin nasty. You and your source seem to think it is perfectly fine to talk about third party on an open forum or behind their backs, but if you have read many posts on here, MOST people have enough tact and common decency to refrain from slanderous posts.
Honestly, the more you post I have to wonder if you weren't wired properly at assembly. You continually go places that most of us would never go, and you joke that we can't believe everything you post. Now that is really acting like a grown-up isn't it?
kfacres
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so is that covering up the truth about a son of your bull siring calves that potentially had unacceptable birth weights?... I mean- the bull is half the equation?? and so that would put your bull as 25% of the potential problem?
justintime
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No one is covering up anything! You just don't get it do you?
kfacres
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i did a quick search online- and figured out who the owner of the bull in question is...
I think it's interesting that on neither the canada- or american shorthorn websites-- any of the canadian animals have a bw listed...
you just don't get it--- that makes you look bad JIT-- just admit there could potentially could have been a problem.. and no more from me...
I think it's interesting that on neither the canada- or american shorthorn websites-- any of the canadian animals have a bw listed...
you just don't get it--- that makes you look bad JIT-- just admit there could potentially could have been a problem.. and no more from me...
knabe
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Cut the BS said:
hey icegirl, why don't we go play sometime. i bet we could melt some iceblocks.
vcsf
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Cut the BS said:
Surprise, surprise more bs from the BSer. If you look on the ASA site the birthweight of Timeline is plainly shown as are the birthweights of the progeny that Grant has registered. Seeing as the Diamond herd is the other one you like to attack I also see birthweights recorded on their cattle such as Prophecy on the ASA site. If you look it is CLRC that makes no provisions for listing birthweights it is not a case of breeders not reporting them.
knabe
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since jason hasn't banned icegirl, i hereby pledge to never respond to another post by the boy fan.
Doc
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knabe said:
2nd that!!!!
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