jaimiediamond
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frostback said:
I think that Digby O'Dell's famous quote from the Life Of Riley "Best Be Shoveling On" is a theme for some members
I give in--- to all shorthorn people--
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I think that Digby O'Dell's famous quote from the Life Of Riley "Best Be Shoveling On" is a theme for some members
kfacres
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I do not remember his name-- I do know who the person was that told me--- but I'd rather leave their name out of this converstion... That particular person tells me many things that I'm sure 'they' would not want me to repeat...
If push comes to shove--- I suppose I'll find a copy of that PM>>>
If push comes to shove--- I suppose I'll find a copy of that PM>>>
kfacres
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frostback said:
I'll stand behind them...
Just don't want to get party B involved.. If you can guess my "current" best friend on here-- I just told them my source... They- were "as I quote". sitting on the fence of indecision" . Party B- actually cares about selling herd bulls and breeding stock..I on the other hand, could care less about it...
For the record, Party B- also predicted a topic of discussion that arose about a month ago- and got quite a few people mad over the whole thing... Party B-- told me about it about 2 months before it surfaced on SP...
The thing, I remember about our conversation- was my source told me that her source (horse's mouth), said something to the effect that he wouldn't let Grant know he was disapointed in the BW's of those calves-= for fear of whatever... So, my guess-- even if Grant did ask him-0- he wouldn't commit...
jaimiediamond
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Let me guess it's me
Message I sent you
I took out your source's name until you are ready to go public
I already had figured it was Party B from some of her previous posts on steer planet. I am not sure how reliable she is as a source or not I have only ever talked to her once about ____ which was difficult because she kept trying to talk about _____ whom I was not at all interested in (bulls). I taking 4 heifers down to Hawkeye this spring to put _____ in just to see how he works and if he does I hope for a good son . There will be a Star P Matrix, Diamond Prophecy, Diamond Temperature Rising and a Matlock Red Sniper will be interesting to see if he clicks with them or not! Anyways that is the one and only time I have talked to Party B on the phone was as I was planning on trying those matings out this year. I do know that she advised me against advertising Prophecy without Lance of cattle vision's permission and when I called to get permission he was surprised that anyone would say not to advertise... This was done in a rather threatening personal message so regarding Party B (sp user) I sit on the fence of indecision
edited to have Party B inserted instead of blanks which I left for the bulls in question
Message I sent you
I took out your source's name until you are ready to go publicI already had figured it was Party B from some of her previous posts on steer planet. I am not sure how reliable she is as a source or not I have only ever talked to her once about ____ which was difficult because she kept trying to talk about _____ whom I was not at all interested in (bulls)
. I taking 4 heifers down to Hawkeye this spring to put _____ in just to see how he works and if he does I hope for a good son . There will be a Star P Matrix, Diamond Prophecy, Diamond Temperature Rising and a Matlock Red Sniper will be interesting to see if he clicks with them or not! Anyways that is the one and only time I have talked to Party B on the phone was as I was planning on trying those matings out this year. I do know that she advised me against advertising Prophecy without Lance of cattle vision's permission and when I called to get permission he was surprised that anyone would say not to advertise... This was done in a rather threatening personal message so regarding Party B (sp user) I sit on the fence of indecision edited to have Party B inserted instead of blanks which I left for the bulls in question
kfacres
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well to me... there are plenty of dead give aways in that...
but then again.. I know the source...
but then again.. I know the source...
jaimiediamond
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Cut the BS said:
Well it's not hard all people would have to do is look at some Shorthorn threads especially ones regarding Timeline and they would not have any trouble figuring out who your Party B is.
OH Breeder
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Without any A's or B's I would probably be cautious using any bull with a -7.5 CE and 5.6 BW EPD. Granted ACC is .37 but I would be hesitant either way. I guess I am a person that does research breeding choices and have looked at both pedigree information and spoke to owners in regards to bulls especially newer bulls. I am not putting anyone down, I am just stating what is in black and white.
So what is the big deal again?...... ???
So what is the big deal again?...... ???
justintime
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I just don't know what the big deal is. I would be the first to admit that Timeline is NOT a bull for everyone to use. He appears to be doing some things very good from what we have seen so far. The biggest BW Timeline I have had myself at 102 lbs, sold to a rancher with 500+ cows and he used him on heifers. When he told me that he had bred his heifers to him, I was almost afraid to ask him about calving these heifers. When I asked he said, that he wished the Timeline bull had bred all the heifers, as he ran a Hereford bull as well in the same pasture and they had to pull a bunch of calves from him. He said he had no major issues with the Timeline son.
I just don't get the issue here as the people who are doing all the whining about Timeline are people who will never use him, not will they ever have to use anything from him. It is a free world and they can use whatever they want. If I was having calving issues from Timeline, I wouldn't use him again either, but so far all the reports I have had from his owners is that they are not real small at birth but they seem to be born easily and they grow like weeds once they are born. As for his -7.5 CE EPD, I have a bit of an issue with that. It has to be based on his pedigree data, and so far, from what I have seen, Timeline calves are NOT having to be assisted at birth.... at least non more than any other bull. I have heard some wild rumours about some BWs from some of the sons of some of the so called BW saviors of the breed, but I will not be posting about them. It may be fact, but it may also be fiction. And if it is true, I have no idea what genetics are involved in the female side of the equation. For all I know, they may have been from sires with 130 lb BWs and they may have had problems calving a Longhorn calf. As per usual, the sire ( and sometimes the grandsire) takes the rap for calving issues. Calving issues, and BW , can come from a wide variety of sources
I came across pretty strong in my last post, but I am very tired of people posting stories on here about things they know nothing about and have nothing to base them on. I think that is TOTALLY WRONG... whether it is about my bull, or anyone else's. I hope this ends this stupid discussion. As for BS, I have to say I am very pleased that he did send me a PM with more information and as I suspected, his source was exactly who I thought it might be.
I just don't get the issue here as the people who are doing all the whining about Timeline are people who will never use him, not will they ever have to use anything from him. It is a free world and they can use whatever they want. If I was having calving issues from Timeline, I wouldn't use him again either, but so far all the reports I have had from his owners is that they are not real small at birth but they seem to be born easily and they grow like weeds once they are born. As for his -7.5 CE EPD, I have a bit of an issue with that. It has to be based on his pedigree data, and so far, from what I have seen, Timeline calves are NOT having to be assisted at birth.... at least non more than any other bull. I have heard some wild rumours about some BWs from some of the sons of some of the so called BW saviors of the breed, but I will not be posting about them. It may be fact, but it may also be fiction. And if it is true, I have no idea what genetics are involved in the female side of the equation. For all I know, they may have been from sires with 130 lb BWs and they may have had problems calving a Longhorn calf. As per usual, the sire ( and sometimes the grandsire) takes the rap for calving issues. Calving issues, and BW , can come from a wide variety of sources
I came across pretty strong in my last post, but I am very tired of people posting stories on here about things they know nothing about and have nothing to base them on. I think that is TOTALLY WRONG... whether it is about my bull, or anyone else's. I hope this ends this stupid discussion. As for BS, I have to say I am very pleased that he did send me a PM with more information and as I suspected, his source was exactly who I thought it might be.
knabe
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Cut the BS said:
looking for ice.
thunderdownunder
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Cut the BS said:
So after having successfully diverted this topic with a completely unrelated post.... do you have proof of your earlier accusations?
kfacres
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thunderdownunder said:
it has been resolved via Grant.. and your butt buddy/ twin sister... O0
knabe
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You have an obsession with the Colon. Are you sure you're not a semi colon?
knabe
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Ahh. Poor colon blow lost it. Docks me 3 karma cause he wetted himself.
Better check in to an old age clinic while you still can.
The mind apparently was not the first thing to go with you.
Better stock up on adult diapers.
Better check in to an old age clinic while you still can.
The mind apparently was not the first thing to go with you.
Better stock up on adult diapers.
kfacres
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has been confirmed... Would you like for me to dig around your past... and rather focus on you?frostback said:
Our little tag teaming familily... will never be enough to counterbalance the BS coming from north of the border-- in that large family of online liars...
No, no, this intial accusation. Not the post your started trying to deflect form the origanal one. She isnt as far north as this family.
I would also take any proof of you accusing me now also.
No, no, this intial accusation. Not the post your started trying to deflect form the origanal one. She isnt as far north as this family.
I would also take any proof of you accusing me now also.
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