-XBAR- said:
Oh absolutely. Nothing in the pedigree to suggest otherwise :
SB PROUD VENTURE BW EPD 5.4
CF TRUMP 3.8
JSF TOP HAND 4.6
SPRYS ALL GOLD 3.8
SPRYS AUSSIE GOLD 6.3
BYLAND GOLD PLATED 5.1
I bought the South African semen rights and 500 doses of Spry's All Gold D052 in about 2009.
Although the BW's are fairly high, the calves come easily. I calve at 30 and 36 months only, due to the environment. He has been used extensively over heifers here.
With that kind of growth there will clearly be higher BW's. They certainly haven't shown coarseness through the shoulders though, which I feel is a bigger indicator of calving issues!
I have had trouble when linebreeding progeny with a common link on both the top and the bottom of the pedigree to a bull I purchased in 2003 to improve the bone in my herd. I had some 56kg (123lbs) calves, one where I lost the heifer, one where there was a prolapse on a second calf cow, and another from a mature cow that calved with no problem.
I now know to avoid that genetic combination!//// I agree especially on the shape of the calves RE Calving ease bWS etc. the point I was trying to make-Is that list posted with the EPDS is made up entirely (other than Trump) of performance breeders from back in the day WHO DOCUMENTED THIER CATTLE HONESTLY. THATS WHY THE EPDS on BWS may be higher-But like you said that didnt necessarily make them cow killers and they worked through the years to improve BWS and not lose Growth Today-alot of that blood remains effective as part of the functional cattle that have evolved O0