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[renegade]

I went in to the auction yard resturaunt this  moring for breakfast and they had a sign up that horse auctions were cancelled until further notice. All i can say is oh crap

 

[LN]

I'm guessing too many unwanted horses are being sent there and no market exists for them. What a shocker! Where's the subsidies from the government to take care of my unwanted horses and what are the terrorists against animal agriculture (PETA, HSUS) doing to help with the growing population of unwanted horses...nothing!

 

[CM Cattle]

At bluegrass stockyards, horses are bringing on average $20.00. You will loose money , but you cant afford to feed them all winter. The cattle market around here ain't much better.

 

[onthegofarmer]

The Sale Barn 10 miles from here in the heart of Ohio's Amish Country they are selling cheap and the protesters are there every week.  But where are all the broke down buggy horses going to go if something happens here.  In my opinion it is no different than calling a cow.

 

[knabe]

out here, people are organizing "help" to send horses to the glue factory.  instead of costing you $600 (i doubt that number is correct), they are trying to cut that in half.

people are doing this door to door.  personally, i am shocked by the number of skinny horses i've seen lately.

your subsidy for taking care of unwanted horses is being used for the legal feral ones on your property, oops, government property.

no wonder we need to share the wealth, protesting doesn't pay very much.

business should be illegal.

hmmm


New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on Wednesday he has instructed the finance commissioner not to send out $400 property tax rebates to homeowners because the crisis on Wall Street has cost the city dearly in lost tax revenue.

Bloomberg, who hopes to win a third term by convincing voters he is best suited to guide the city through its fiscal crisis, told a news conference that Wall Street already has taken half a trillion dollars in write-downs.

why not just cut government????????????????????????????  nawwwwwwwww, we just need to come together.  we should alllllllllllllllllll be government and hug.

more ....The mayor proposed raising the income tax by either 7.5 percent or 15 percent.


these idiots just have no shame.  the income gathering scheme will have to get narrower and more aggressive with each round of stupidity.  who wants to invest in a climate like this?  if you keep your chips until the stupidity wears off, you are selfish.  why not just have the guts and convert to socialism.  why lie?

 

[Dusty]

At bluegrass stockyards, horses are bringing on average $20.00. You will loose money , but you cant afford to feed them all winter. The cattle market around here ain't much better.

$20 is not worth the fuel to get them there.  Just shoot them and bury them then....

 

[kanshow]

But Dusty, how much is it going to cost to either dig a hole or get the rendering works to pick them up??    It's a matter of choosing how you would loose the least. 

 

[Dusty]

But Dusty, how much is it going to cost to either dig a hole or get the rendering works to pick them up??     It's a matter of choosing how you would loose the least.   

Not much.... I've dug a lot of holes....shovels take a long time to wear out....

 

[kanshow]

My luck would have it happen mid summer when the ground is rock hard or mid winter when it is frozen!!   

How much would it cost to have a backhoe dig a hole?  We happen to own a back hoe so it is a non issue but just curious.

What do the rendering works charge for a pickup?  Last I heard a horse was $100. 

 

[MYT Farms]

At bluegrass stockyards, horses are bringing on average $20.00. You will loose money , but you cant afford to feed them all winter. The cattle market around here ain't much better.

$20 is not worth the fuel to get them there.  Just shoot them and bury them then....

Dusty, I'd perty near agree with ya except for the fact that it costs $100 to dig a grave out here and trying to shovel your way through our concrete excuse for dirt would wear out you and the shovel after about 3 foot down.

 

[CM Cattle]

At bluegrass stockyards, horses are bringing on average $20.00. You will loose money , but you cant afford to feed them all winter. The cattle market around here ain't much better.

$20 is not worth the fuel to get them there.  Just shoot them and bury them then....

That's the best idea I've heard of in a while.

 

[fluffer]

Sale barns around here are requiring a $25.00 deposite when you leave a horse/donkey/pony because they have to be coggins tested and they aren't bringing enough to pay for the coggins test.  SO not only does it cost you money to get the horse there, you have to pay them to sell it for you.
My Aunt lives in KY and there is some park close to them where people are turing their horses loose.  I guess if you want a horse right now is the time to catch one.

As far as the cattle market.  Well, Obama is for corn based ethanol(yeah for our crop farm) but bad for our beef side of the farm.  This is going to drive corn up and cattle down.



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[Rocky Hill Simmental]

The horse sale barn closest here charges $30 to run the horses through. A lot of colts are selling cheaper than that so basically people are paying to get rid of their horses.

We're selling our horses. We already got rid of all our mares and young ones. All we have left is our registered paint stud horse but he's for sale.

 

[knabe]

next will be babies because they aren't diverse enough.  you won't be able to afford your own, but you have to pay for illegal immigrant babies.  essentially, we already have that, but the left won't admit it because it's so racist.  the stupidity of america and our penchant to eliminate our diversity at the expense of everyone else's will remove the incentive for people to want to come here in the first place.  it doesn't make sense to change too much the place you want to go to that attracted  you to it in the first place.  that's why you want to GO to places, not bring them back with you.  diversity will be the end of america.

look at obama's "cabinet" already and it's "diversity".  rahm emmanuel who told republicans to go f themselves.  robert kennedy for epa.  what role will ayers have in education, who, he wrote a book and dedicated it to sirhan sirhan, which is probably why obama feels black guilt and feels indebted to the kennedy's who got their fortune by breaking the law, and after they got it, got drunk used women, with one notable one losing their life.

diversity?  i visit it by choice, but don't impose it on me.  the diversity around me has absolutely no criticism of it's homogeneity and lack of acceptance of the culture they are eliminating.  they laugh while we don't breed and wait for our death while they tend our garden.  diversity?  no thanks

 

[itk]

As far as the cattle market.  Well, Obama is for corn based ethanol(yeah for our crop farm) but bad for our beef side of the farm.  This is going to drive corn up and cattle down.



Fluffer

Around here gas prices are now lower or the same as the "alternative" fuel prices. If gas continues to fall what is the future of ethanol and communites that built plants. Here is my conspiracy theory; if gas prices continue to fall the government inflates them again just so the interest in alternative fuels isn't forgotten.

 

[MYT Farms]

As far as the cattle market.  Well, Obama is for corn based ethanol(yeah for our crop farm) but bad for our beef side of the farm.  This is going to drive corn up and cattle down.



Fluffer

Around here gas prices are now lower or the same as the "alternative" fuel prices. If gas continues to fall what is the future of ethanol and communites that built plants. Here is my conspiracy theory; if gas prices continue to fall the government inflates them again just so the interest in alternative fuels isn't forgotten.

Recently did a Letter to the Editor for school on that same subject. Government subsidies work wonders with making the biggest mess in the shortest time possible.

 

[knabe]

Here is my conspiracy theory; if gas prices continue to fall the government inflates them again just so the interest in alternative fuels isn't forgotten.

the definition of a conspiracy isn't negative.  it simply means more than one person.

cap and trade on competition to subsidized industries is another form of raising prices.

a subsidy generated through inflationary measures such as printing money, collecting taxes to pay a subsidy raises prices as well.

combine multiple strategies, and you are simply plugging holes in a system that seeks equilibrium.

then you have the problem of needing to monitor sectors of the economy to avoid it seeking equilibrium and you have a feedback system that guarantees job security to monitor it, change it, talk about it, reinforce it, and soon you are out of control with no way back except revolution.  witness chavez today with gold mines.  he's gonna fail because he's concentrating instead of distributing power.  even one of the most successful concentrators failed, genghis khan, because the consolidation was tied to a person rather than everyone.  it came apart when assets were "transferred" to his sons.  in some ways, this is how holdings are diluted in the US versus how they were transferred in england.  it's a lie that the rich stay rich.  simply having children guarantees redistribution as most kids aren't as successful as their parents.  some will argue the redistribution just doesn't happen fast enough.  what are the right speed and the right conduits?

 

[DLD]

My theory about fuel (crude oil) prices has always been that the speculators in the commodity markets were most to blame for how high it got.  I think the fact that the price of crude plummeted when the stock market did proves this out.  The commodities markets were never intended for pure speculators, but as a tool for the producers and buyers of the actual commodities.

Something I've heard very little talk about, but seems pretty obvious to me is how much did oil/fuel prices have to do directly with this economic crash?  The prices had to have an effect on the economy pretty much everywhere in the world, but no one seems to give it much, if any credit for contributing to the crash.  It seems to me that grossly high fuel prices had to have been a huge part of the reason the economy suddenly fell apart.

I still hear people saying "Oh, now they know that we'll pay $4.00 a gallon for gas, it'll be back there before you know it".  Guess I have to question our ability and our willingness to pay those kind of prices for it.  To me, they just proved how long we could afford to pay that for it.

 

[knabe]

i'm not a futures assassin. 

consistency of supply, price of gold, dollar, oil and currency adjustment probably have a bigger effect.

i'm with chambero on this.  drill here, don't use ours, buy theirs, ship it here with pressure from our supply to drive down their price so they have less money to set up madrassas on our soil with no progressive or christian alternative on theirs.

 

[DLD]

i'm not a futures assassin. 

consistency of supply, price of gold, dollar, oil and currency adjustment probably have a bigger effect.

Well, I don't think I'm a futures assassin either, and I never said it was the only reason, just a big part of the reason. Futures trading has it's place, I'm just saying the futures got pretty top heavy, and the oil companies dang sure milked it for all it was worth.  The oil companies were who I was refering to when I said They just proved how long we could afford it.

i'm with chambero on this.  drill here, don't use ours, buy theirs, ship it here with pressure from our supply to drive down their price so they have less money to set up madrassas on our soil with no progressive or christian alternative on theirs.

Count me in on that one, too.