Masculinity in Shorthorns

[justintime]

I would never ever buy an animal, male or female, by their numbers alone. I try to let my eyes determine if the animal is good enough to consider and they check the numbers and see if they agree. Numbers don't tell a person much about structural soundness, testicle shape and size, udder quality, temperament, and a variety of other important economic traits.

 

[RyanChandler]

at the same time, if the epds are substantiated by high enough accuracies, they should be as good'a indicator as any in determining which functional characteristics coincide w/ economic traits and, from there, a hierarchy of characteristics in terms of importance can be established.

 

[Mill Iron A]

depends on which numbers, I don't care if it is high accuracy or not you will have some with muscle and some with frame

 

[coyote]

How is your bull bred Coyote,He has those vintage Shorthorn ears

r.n.reed, he is a Bonanza out of an Alta Cedar Ultimate cow. We sold him in our bull sale a couple years ago to a commercial cattleman.

 

[RedBulls]

Here is another example of a masculine Shorthorn bull.

 

[Okotoks]

and a few more

 

[justintime]

Major Leroy

 

[irishshorthorns]

The reason U.K. Shorthorn breeders don't shave their bulls' heads before going to the big sales like Stirling is because they would look really ugly. U.K. Shorthorn bulls do not possess the nice heads that you would find on most Canadian type stock. The huge infusion of Maine Anjou blood has made the heads even worse than they were twenty years ago. Look at any of the pics of U.K. Beef Shorthorns and most of their bulls have big coarse heads.

 

[librarian]

About curly headed Angus, I think the Pinebank bulls show these characteristics, especially Pinebank Waigroup 14/02
http://www.sustainablegenetics.com/images/blackangus/1402.jpg

or others,
http://pinebankangus.com/category/foundation-sires/

or some of the Horse Butte bulls.

But I have to say, the curly headed shorthorns are cooler by far.

 

[vanridge]

This is our shorthorn bull, Hatfield Governor 17X. To me, he is a fantastic eg of a masculine bull. His heifer calves are feminine and we've had no calving issues with him, even on first calf heifers.

 

[aj]

Seems like all these pictures are of mature bulls. Did any of these show a cresty neck and masqulinity at say 7 months of age......or as a two year old. To me that is almost a completely different deal.

 

[JTM]

All I know is I'm sick and tired of these Clydesdale lookin, huge framed, big boned, feminine lookin bulls calves that look like heifers. So glad I've got a bull lineup that all sire bull calves that look like bulls. That's what I want. <rock>

 

[Okotoks]

I think most of those bulls would be masculine at a younger age. I have posted one that was 16 months in his photo, another of a bull that was about 15 months and a calf at 4 months.

 

[frostback]

Seems like all these pictures are of mature bulls. Did any of these show a cresty neck and masqulinity at say 7 months of age......or as a two year old. To me that is almost a completely different deal.

On a different note do you have a photo of your Denver bull in his working clothes and older? Would love to see how he progressed this summer.

 

[RedBulls]

Here is a head shot of our main herd sire taken last winter. An interesting thing about this bull is that by summertime, he sheds out so completely, that it's hard to find a curly hair on him anywhere.

 

[RedBulls]

While going through my photo files this morning, I came across these and thought it might be interesting to show the chronological development of a masculine bull. This calf is a son of the bull above and was born on 1/1/13. His BW was 82 lbs. His dam is from the Diamond herd (Okotoks).

Here he is as a newborn.

251A and his dam in mid April

He was becoming pretty independent from his mom by July, except for dinner time.

Here he is again on October 5th 2013. He was weaned on 9/2/13 and came of his dam weighing 770 lbs (good grass pasture and milk only). His adj. 205 day weight was 671 lbs with an ADG of 2.82 and WPDA of 3.16
As you can see, he is developing a classic "curly head" at 9 mos.

 

[stumpy]

This is a Feb 2013 bull calf pictured in early August. I think he is on his way to looking like a bull.

 

[vanridge]

Here is Governor at Agribition in Regina SK when he was a calf. No doubts that you're lookin' at a bull calf here.

 

[trevorgreycattleco]

The Zulu bull still sticks out for me. I'd like to see him used heavily throughout the breed. Heavily. That bull on busters and bonanzas would be real good. On the A@T type stuff. Kapers. Lovings. I'd use that dude hard

 

[r.n.reed]

Here is a 6 mo.old calf that I feel exhibits some masculinity.Sorry for the blurry picture.Also pictured is a 14 mo old that is developing a crest.Stumpy I like your calf.