New Breed

[cbcr]

quote from XBAR

Linebreeding to an individual is an entirely different, and even better, approach to stabilizing the genetics than fixing breed percentages. Incorporating both of these approaches would create an even more homogeneous product than either does independently.  What I have contended throws type off is continuing to breed random percentages to each other with no intention of ever establishing set 'breed' percentage or standard. Breeding 1/2 bloods to 3/4 bloods to 5/8ths to 7/16ths back to 1/2 bloods like as seen with the simangus deal creates a hodgepodge, not a stabilized 'breed.'

If 5/8 3/8 is the composition you feel best suits your environment, then the best approach would be to continue to breed your 1/2 blood bulls to 3/4 blood cows.  All of the resulting offspring will be 5/8, 3/8ths.  To fix type, these first generation 5/8ths 3/8ths offspring need to be bred to other first generation 5/8th 3/8 offspring.  Then, the resulting second generation 5/8ths 3/8ths  bred to other second generation 5/8ths 3/8ths.  Following this protocol for several generations is the only way to stabilize / fix this breed composition. This is the protocol used by those who established the Brangus and Gert breeds and this stabilization process is what has been directly responsible for the tremendous amount of prepotency noted in these lines. 

(clapping)

 

[aj]

Is there any literature that describes how the Herfords,Angus, and Shorthorn breeds were developed in England or where ever? And in what time frame. How close were they to the Aurochs or whatever?

 

[knabe]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heck_cattle


http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/Europeweb/factfile/Unique-facts-Europe26.htm


http://www.nature.com/srep/2014/140723/srep05798/full/srep05798.html


https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/March2012/120327-cattle-traced-back-80-animals




Most of the literature I've seen regarding new breeds go to a guy who started it as mainly a way to differentiate their cattle, sort of like a visual brand.

 

[librarian]

Like Jabob and Laban's speckled cattle.

 

[cbcr]

quote from AJ

Is there any literature that describes how the Herfords,Angus, and Shorthorn breeds were developed in England or where ever? And in what time frame. How close were they to the Aurochs or whatever?

I ran across this link to the Angus:

Full text of "History of Aberdeen-Angus cattle" http://archive.org/stream/cu31924002957391/cu31924002957391_djvu.txt

 

[librarian]

Before DNA technology displaced superstition and folk lore, I had an idea that there had once been white Aurochs that were not hunted for mystical reasons. Mystical reasons similar to the animism in cave paintings of chalk white Aurochs. Furthermore, I imagined the wild cattle of Cadzow Wood (reputed haunt of Merlin) were derived from these relicts and endowed with a dilute and diminished power. Well, not so. But the color pattern of white with red points has ancient magical connotations of otherworldly associations.
This I still theorize related to the amanita mushroom hallucingenic ceremonies of northern latitude forest cultures. These supressed practices and sympathies I think are coded into this color pattern in a symbolic way, as totems or signals of belief in the old ways or allegiance to old kingdoms,or anti kingdoms. I have a couple cows colored like this. See how the speckles on the nose recall the coloration of amanita? This related to Aurochs as a symbol of pre Roman Alba and the Caledonian Wild Wood. Since aj asked....