Northern Shorthorns Herd Bull

[coyote]

AJ are you related to the Hoyts in Oregon? Or Hoyt Axton? He was a good singer.

 

[justintime]

AJ are you related to the Hoyts in Oregon? Or Hoyt Axton? He was a good singer.

If aj is related I suspect none of them would admit it!

 

[trevorgreycattleco]

JIT always a comedian. aj, always Magnum PI.  (pop)

 

[kfacres]

This is as good as Jerry Springer-- A whole big circle of family members backed into a corner, trying to get their stories straight.. and a couple outsiders wanting serious answers solved...

BTW: I'm thinking TDU, is really a sista; from another mista... (pop)

 

[frostback]

How exactally are they backed in a corner and just what is confusing you about their "story".

 

[aj]

I've been wanting to download the song "Blind Fiddler" by Hoyt Axton......but I can't find it!

 

[knabe]

This is as good as Jerry Springer-- A whole big circle of family members backed into a corner, trying to get their stories straight.. and a couple outsiders wanting serious answers solved...

BTW: I'm thinking TDU, is really a sista; from another mista... (pop)

Look at you, texting, just like a 24 year old.

 

[jaimiediamond]

How exactally are they backed in a corner and just what is confusing you about their "story".

Hmm well apparently our pedigree is a Little bit much to take in... The fact that complete outcross genetics are being mistaken as us reminds me of black calves in a sale barn... Angus obviously 

So aj doesn't continue to confuse himself my pedigree  here it is  <beer> I don't see my blood relation to frostback, thunderdownunder or even justintime
                Jasper Stephenson (Newbiggon Shorthorns)
          David Herbert Stephenson (Frimley Shorthorns)
                Jenny MacDonald
        Dan Stephenson (also known as Okotoks)(Diamond Shorthorns)               
                Arthur Searle
            Dorothy Searle
                  Minnie Brown
Jaimie/Jacqueline(shorthorn101)
                Henri-Pierre Cruse
            Peter Cruse
                    Aletta Meiring
        Jill Cruse     
                  Bertrand Wessels
            Diana Wessels
                  Frieda Wilhoen 

 

[kfacres]

How exactally are they backed in a corner and just what is confusing you about their "story".

Hmm well apparently our pedigree is a Little bit much to take in... The fact that complete outcross genetics are being mistaken as us reminds me of black calves in a sale barn... Angus obviously 

So aj doesn't continue to confuse himself my pedigree  here it is  <beer> I don't see my blood relation to frostbacks, thunderdownunder or even justintime
                 Jasper Stephenson
           David Herbert Stephenson
                 Jenny MacDonald
        Dan Stephenson (also known as Okotoks)                 
                 Arthur Searle
            Dorothy Searle
                  Minnie Brown
Jaimie/Jacqueline(shorthorn101)
                 Henri-Pierre Cruse
             Peter Cruse
                    Aletta Meiring
        Jill Cruse     
                  Bertrand Wessels
             Diana Wessels
                   Frieda Wilhoen 

TH Carriers in there?  I'm unfamilar with that bunch of Candian seedstock?

 

[jaimiediamond]

How exactally are they backed in a corner and just what is confusing you about their "story".

Hmm well apparently our pedigree is a Little bit much to take in... The fact that complete outcross genetics are being mistaken as us reminds me of black calves in a sale barn... Angus obviously 

So aj doesn't continue to confuse himself my pedigree  here it is  <beer> I don't see my blood relation to frostbacks, thunderdownunder or even justintime
                 Jasper Stephenson
           David Herbert Stephenson
                 Jenny MacDonald
        Dan Stephenson (also known as Okotoks)                 
                 Arthur Searle
            Dorothy Searle
                  Minnie Brown
Jaimie/Jacqueline(shorthorn101)
                 Henri-Pierre Cruse
             Peter Cruse
                    Aletta Meiring
        Jill Cruse     
                  Bertrand Wessels
             Diana Wessels
                   Frieda Wilhoen 

TH Carriers in there?  I'm unfamilar with that bunch of Candian seedstock?

Very unlikely we are obviously derived from the best stock with the South African advantage coming from my mothers side

 

[aj]

I think it helps people to understand the context of various discussions. Id someones daughter comes on and does a 3 page story of the virtues of the herd of their father's herd. It not wrong or right its just the context of it. As the great Mike Rosen has stated......it helps to know where someone sits before you know where they stand. It is special that you are royalty in the long line of registered cattle breeders Jamie. That helps put things in perspective also.

 

[coyote]

How does Gary Carter fit in here?  Was he the Importer of Mandalong Super Flag? Was Super Elephant imported or was it just semen?

 

[thunderdownunder]

How does Gary Carter fit in here?  Was he the Importer of Mandalong Super Flag? Was Super Elephant imported or was it just semen?

Gary, Dan's brother in law, and his wife Terry (Dan's sister) imported Super Flag, Royal Ferrari and two Roany cows from Rick Pisaturo's Mandalong stud. I'm not sure on Super Elephant but I'm sure Jaimie can enlighten us!

On that note, Mr Pisaturo lives down the road from me and is a fascinating man with and amazing story. He is responsible for developing the Mandalong Specials, Square Meaters and Tropicana breeds.

 

[jaimiediamond]

Actually I think we will have to see what dad or JIT can provide on that information I do know that Terry and Gary used Elephant on one of the Roany cows they imported and the resulting offspring was the Jumbo bull.  I did a quick google searcg and I did find a article that I think is really interesting that references both Super Elephant and Super Flag written by Rick Pisaturo
Poll Shorthorns
I started breeding Poll Shorthorns in 1961 and dispersed in 1975 – showing the first bull Mandalong Prince (P) in 1964. Among the main success were:

•5 Grand Champion bulls in the last 6 years of showing at the Sydney Royal Easter Show
•3 Grand Champion bulls at the Brisbane National Exhibition
•4 Poll Shorthorn Champion steers at the Sydney Royal Easter Show
•Female Progeny Groups and many other championships.
On 9 consecutive occasions Mandalong Poll Shorthorn bulls at show and sales topped the market. The record for the highest price for a Poll Shorthorn was broken 3 times, $30,000 for Mandalong Super Elephant (P). Mandalong Super Elephant (P) also created history for being the heaviest beef bull ever to be shown at a Sydney Royal Easter Show with a weight of 2735lbs (1240kg). Perhaps the greatest successes go to Mandalong Super Flag (P) sold to Dr. G. Carter of Alberta, Canada at 8 months of age for the record price of the time of $23,793 in 1971. As a2 year old, he was shown at the greatest USA cattle show, The National Western Stock Show, Denver, Colorado. He was awarded the Supreme Shorthorn (polled & horned) Championship, creating history for the first foreign bred bull, including Canada that had ever been awarded such a sash. Further honours due to Flag, when his progeny Crestdale Superflag, after being awarded the Grand Championship was sold for a world record for a Shorthorn bull of $41,500. (Full details in my book)

 

[coyote]

This is a full Australian cow that would of come form Gary's importing. We bought here out of a Diamond sale. We have a few daughters in our herd.

    MERIWONG ROYAL GRANT X-M433385-  
    MANDALONG ROYAL AMBASSADOR X-M433386-    
       MERIWONG HAREBELLE X-[AU]F6002057-  
  MANDALONG ROYAL FERRARI X-M437909-      
        MERIWONG ROYAL GRANT X-M433385-  
     MANDALONG PRINCESS X-[AU]F6202784-    
       LONE PINE ROANY 1559TH X-[AU]F6000402-  
DIAMOND SECRET DELIGHT 5D        
       MANDALONG SUPER ELEPHANT X-[AU]M7003227-  
     NEWBIGGON JUMBO X-M448359-    
        MANDALONG ROANY 51ST X-F603386-  
  DIAMOND TERRY'S SECRET 18T X-F644290-      
       BROUGHTON PARK SECRET SRVC 12 X-[AU]M7401387-  
    NEWBIGGON FINAL SECRET X-F633641-    
      NEWBIGGON ANN LUISE X-F613323-  

 

[thunderdownunder]

Actually I think we will have to see what dad or JIT can provide on that information I do know that Terry and Gary used Elephant on one of the Roany cows they imported and the resulting offspring was the Jumbo bull.  I did a quick google searcg and I did find a article that I think is really interesting that references both Super Elephant and Super Flag written by Rick Pisaturo
Poll Shorthorns
I started breeding Poll Shorthorns in 1961 and dispersed in 1975 – showing the first bull Mandalong Prince (P) in 1964. Among the main success were:

•5 Grand Champion bulls in the last 6 years of showing at the Sydney Royal Easter Show
•3 Grand Champion bulls at the Brisbane National Exhibition
•4 Poll Shorthorn Champion steers at the Sydney Royal Easter Show
•Female Progeny Groups and many other championships.
On 9 consecutive occasions Mandalong Poll Shorthorn bulls at show and sales topped the market. The record for the highest price for a Poll Shorthorn was broken 3 times, $30,000 for Mandalong Super Elephant (P). Mandalong Super Elephant (P) also created history for being the heaviest beef bull ever to be shown at a Sydney Royal Easter Show with a weight of 2735lbs (1240kg). Perhaps the greatest successes go to Mandalong Super Flag (P) sold to Dr. G. Carter of Alberta, Canada at 8 months of age for the record price of the time of $23,793 in 1971. As a2 year old, he was shown at the greatest USA cattle show, The National Western Stock Show, Denver, Colorado. He was awarded the Supreme Shorthorn (polled & horned) Championship, creating history for the first foreign bred bull, including Canada that had ever been awarded such a sash. Further honours due to Flag, when his progeny Crestdale Superflag, after being awarded the Grand Championship was sold for a world record for a Shorthorn bull of $41,500. (Full details in my book)

I'll have to send you a copy of Rick's book. If you're nice I might even get him to sign it  ;D

 

[jaimiediamond]

Actually I think we will have to see what dad or JIT can provide on that information I do know that Terry and Gary used Elephant on one of the Roany cows they imported and the resulting offspring was the Jumbo bull.  I did a quick google searcg and I did find a article that I think is really interesting that references both Super Elephant and Super Flag written by Rick Pisaturo
Poll Shorthorns
I started breeding Poll Shorthorns in 1961 and dispersed in 1975 – showing the first bull Mandalong Prince (P) in 1964. Among the main success were:

•5 Grand Champion bulls in the last 6 years of showing at the Sydney Royal Easter Show
•3 Grand Champion bulls at the Brisbane National Exhibition
•4 Poll Shorthorn Champion steers at the Sydney Royal Easter Show
•Female Progeny Groups and many other championships.
On 9 consecutive occasions Mandalong Poll Shorthorn bulls at show and sales topped the market. The record for the highest price for a Poll Shorthorn was broken 3 times, $30,000 for Mandalong Super Elephant (P). Mandalong Super Elephant (P) also created history for being the heaviest beef bull ever to be shown at a Sydney Royal Easter Show with a weight of 2735lbs (1240kg). Perhaps the greatest successes go to Mandalong Super Flag (P) sold to Dr. G. Carter of Alberta, Canada at 8 months of age for the record price of the time of $23,793 in 1971. As a2 year old, he was shown at the greatest USA cattle show, The National Western Stock Show, Denver, Colorado. He was awarded the Supreme Shorthorn (polled & horned) Championship, creating history for the first foreign bred bull, including Canada that had ever been awarded such a sash. Further honours due to Flag, when his progeny Crestdale Superflag, after being awarded the Grand Championship was sold for a world record for a Shorthorn bull of $41,500. (Full details in my book)

I'll have to send you a copy of Rick's book. If you're nice I might even get him to sign it  ;D

OOOOOO OOOOO PLEASE!!!!

 

[jaimiediamond]

This is a full Australian cow that would of come form Gary's importing. We bought here out of a Diamond sale. We have a few daughters in our herd.

    MERIWONG ROYAL GRANT X-M433385-  
    MANDALONG ROYAL AMBASSADOR X-M433386-    
       MERIWONG HAREBELLE X-[AU]F6002057-  
  MANDALONG ROYAL FERRARI X-M437909-      
        MERIWONG ROYAL GRANT X-M433385-  
     MANDALONG PRINCESS X-[AU]F6202784-    
       LONE PINE ROANY 1559TH X-[AU]F6000402-  
DIAMOND SECRET DELIGHT 5D        
       MANDALONG SUPER ELEPHANT X-[AU]M7003227-  
     NEWBIGGON JUMBO X-M448359-    
        MANDALONG ROANY 51ST X-F603386-  
  DIAMOND TERRY'S SECRET 18T X-F644290-      
       BROUGHTON PARK SECRET SRVC 12 X-[AU]M7401387-  
    NEWBIGGON FINAL SECRET X-F633641-    
      NEWBIGGON ANN LUISE X-F613323-  

I know that one of dad's biggest regrets was selling that female in the sale.  Gary has a paternal sister to her out of a two year old which is reallly a special heifer.  This year he is expecting a Super Star which will be exciting!  Otherwise his females all were bred to the Xplosion bull

 

[mark tenenbaum]

JIT always a comedian. aj, always Magnum PI.  (pop)//// JR Varsity family detective-The real intrigue BEGINS IN WEST VA-Wash DC has a confusing day too:Fathers Day
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[aj]

Where may we purchase rics book? Is it on amazon? The brisbane show always fascinated me.