Semen merchandising potential on Bulls?

[aj]

I thought I'd throw this out there. How much semen on beef bulls is sold in the U.S. every year? And what bull has sold the most number of units? How much semen has the following bulls sold....Heatseeker,Double Stuff,Cherokee Canyon, Leader 21st,? How about the highest price per straw of semen. Deerpark Leader 13th was at 500$ at one time. What are some of the other breeds bulls with a high semen sales count?

 

[klintdog]

Mytty In Focus (Angus) has sold a ton in the last few years. I think I remember seeing that there was around 10,000 calves out of him or something like that.

 

[amcosgra]

In the hereford breed CS Boomer 29F is selling for $2,000 a straw and Remitall Online 122L is selling for $1,500 a straw!

 

[vcsf]

According to Bob Gordon, who was one of the owners and the main promoter of Leader 21,  ABS sold over 140,000 doses of semen over a ten year period in the late 60's and early 70's.

There amount of semen being sold globally on some bulls especialy Angus is hard to believe.  At one point Leachman's claimed in a sale catalog that New Design 878 was selling upwards of 50,000 straws annually. 

 

[justintime]

Get the right bull, display him a few times ( so that some of the right people see him), add a little promotion in print.... and sit back and watch the money roll in. It is really quite amazing how much semen some of these bulls have sold. I remember the late Doug Schrag in South Dakota, telling me that AF Dividends Impact had built their house... and it is a beautiful house with some amazing stone work. I can think of several bulls in several breeds that have sold over $250,000 without thinking real hard.

Another bull in the Shorthorn breed that sold an incredible amount of semen was Ayatollah. I sat beside Mark Graham Sr, of Graham Land and Livestock on a flight from Louisville to Minneapolis, several years ago, and we got into a conversation about the importance of advertising. Mr. Graham told me that after having the back cover of the breed magazine for almost 4 years continuously, they decided that they would advertise Ayatollah in every second issue. They did this because they felt that everyone in the breed knew about the bull, and it was no longer necessary to advertise him constantly. He said that by this time, Ayatollah had passed the $1 million in sales. He said that after a few months, it became very apparent that in the months that the ads were in the magazine, semen sales were very good. In the months that they did not advertise, semen sales dropped to next to nothing. His point was that even the highest semen selling bull is soon forgot unless he is constantly presented in front of the buying public.

There are some international markets that are incredible markets. I have been told by more than one semen distributor, that there are more cows AI'd in Brazil, than there are total cows in the  US and Canada combined. I had a hard time believing this at first, but I have been told several times that this is true.

 

[CAB]

  My guess that the all time sales volume would be an Angus bull and I would add that EXT, Traveler 23-4, possibly 5522, New Design 787 would be up there. I can't remember for sure, but I think that it is Ext. Brent

 

[Dusty]

I can't remember who, but someone was telling me that more Ali semen got sold to commercial guys than to the clubby or PB breeders...  I think the commercial market is where you really rack up the semen sales...

 

[knabe]

i'd venture to say ildeno was up there for a while.  he was 30 a shot in the 80's.

 

[aj]

I would think that Double Stuff would be up there.

 

[simtal]

much semen has who sold?

he's had a good run.....

 

[red]

I think at one point Lucy Boy had sold the most semen for an Angus.
You can also tell the high sellers by their color code from SEK. Purple is highest, then blue & gold.

 

[showcattlegal]

I heard that when Who Made Who was really hot, they sold a million dollars a year.

 

[Throttle]

I grew up in Ohio and we'd have school and 4-H trips to Select Sires. There, if I recall correctly, Pine Drive Big Sky was said to be the all time top seller, this may date me a bit I believe he was also heralded as the first bull to sell over a million dollars of product. He is buried there. Another interesting part of the story on that bull is that he was raised as an SAE for FFA by Leroy Billman.

Hey jbh, how much did Heatseeker sell in his biggest years?

 

[bcosu]

I grew up in Ohio and we'd have school and 4-H trips to Select Sires. There, if I recall correctly, Pine Drive Big Sky was said to be the all time top seller, this may date me a bit I believe he was also heralded as the first bull to sell over a million dollars of product. He is buried there. Another interesting part of the story on that bull is that he was raised as an SAE for FFA by Leroy Billman.

Hey jbh, how much did Heatseeker sell in his biggest years?

i would believe that about pine drive.
from what i have heard talking to old guys, the only calm angus cattle for a long time were out of pine drive. that kinda reciprocated i guess

 

[justme]

I'll date myself also lol...I remember going to Select Sires in FFA too and seeing him.  We used him alot at the OSU/ATI campus when I was in college.  Wonderful cattle...and that's a stretch from me because I'm not a big Angus fan.

 

[showtime]

Hey jbh,

Do have a place where all your bulls are listed i looked on the website but didn't see any.

 

[aj]

I remember Pine Drive Big Sky on display along time ago. Seems like he was a pretty big bull but a good one at Denver.

 

[jbh]

Hey jbh,

Do have a place where all your bulls are listed i looked on the website but didn't see any.

Not currently......I'm going to update here shortly.  Just magazine ads now.

 

[jbh]

I grew up in Ohio and we'd have school and 4-H trips to Select Sires. There, if I recall correctly, Pine Drive Big Sky was said to be the all time top seller, this may date me a bit I believe he was also heralded as the first bull to sell over a million dollars of product. He is buried there. Another interesting part of the story on that bull is that he was raised as an SAE for FFA by Leroy Billman.

Hey jbh, how much did Heatseeker sell in his biggest years?

After he took off, he sold as much as he could produce a year....generally around 25,000 units/year, until he stifled himself.  The club calf bulls as a whole won't/can't produce near as much semen as an Angus or PB bull of another breed.  THe most I've ever heard was an ABS Angus bull that sold just over 60,000 units in one year....can't remember which one it was....but that number came from a high up ABS employee, so I'm sure it's true.

 

[knabe]

I remember Pine Drive Big Sky on display along time ago. Seems like he was a pretty big bull but a good one at Denver.

would like to see data on how fast you can get tall from his listed parents.