Shorthorn bull GIZMO

[LLBUX]

Can find little on this bull.  May use a Gizmo son this summer on some commercial cows/heifers and wondered what to expect.  The son is kinda 'clubby' in shape and had a 45 pound bw.  Problem is, he is not very big.

Anybody got calves from him?  Your thoughts?

Thanks guys!

 

[thunderdownunder]

45 POUNDS?!?!?!
He must be a midget.

 

[kamerkat]

If u put 2 bulls in a pen one with 45lb bw and one with 145lb bw and i had to use one on my cows dont know which one i would choose.Point is i wouldnt use him unless maybe he was a premature twin

 

[CAB]

Just curious, how many PPL would be scared to use a bull B/C he had a 45lb BW. I personally wouldn't be scared to use one without knowing of any other problems. He may have just been born early and went on to grow out just fine. Just curious?

 

[OH Breeder]

BW wouldn't scare me a bit. IF they went on to grow.

Elbee Leader  C087  is what he is registered under. The guy who bred him post on here once in a while. He is calving ease deluxe.
I also love the type of female he produces. He won't add a ton of bone or size but he will add body and makes nice udder. There is son in production if you don't want to pay 100 for Gizmo's semen there is a son called Elbee Leader 321N or Wymore. His pictured is attached. Great bull.

 

[kfacres]

Just curious, how many PPL would be scared to use a bull B/C he had a 45lb BW. I personally wouldn't be scared to use one without knowing of any other problems. He may have just been born early and went on to grow out just fine. Just curious?

I would not be.. The bull we are currently using, has averaged 55.5 bw across 150 calves, all dammed by first calf heifers.

 

[Joe Boy]

I am not afraid to use a bull with low bw.  I have a bull that I raised out of ALI and we have not had a calf weigh over 78 lbs in two years.  We breed him only to heifers.    We had two premature calves this year after the heifers were butted in the gut by an older cow.  We had twins born last year that were very small too.  Most of the calves this year have weighed in the low 50's.  Excellent for the dry weather we have had since the first week of July.  I was not planning on keeping any of them but as they are growing might change my mind.  One bull would make a good herd bull and two of the heifers are really good, while the only poor calf is the premature one we saved.

 

[kfacres]

this is a calf, sired by the bull I mentioned above.. She had a 38 lb BW, and was full term, from what I can tell.  Came out, practically fell out..a nd never missed a beat.. Will likely be the heaviest weaned calf of our fall group.  Her dam is a Visionary (full bro to X RAY) purebred Shorthorn first calf heifer.. w/ direct family BW's ranging from 85-105. 

 

[Joe Boy]

Great calf.  I would not hesitate to use the bull.

 

[kfacres]

Great calf.  I would not hesitate to use the bull.

If you are refering to her daddy. we just collected him, and plan to promote him to "real world operations", the clubby people would say he doesn't have enough bone, doesn't have enough ace, or whatever.. but the real world stockman, says hell fire, he's a great heifer bull, who still makes calves that grow, and perform. 

 

[LLBUX]

The 45 lb bw bull I mentioned came a month early and was a slow starter.  He's not very big for a yearling but is fancy in type.  He is R/W and goes by the name Mario.   

Gonna use him on a Hanibal heifer and a few commercial cows to see if the fancy type breeds through.  Hoping the female genetics bring weaning and yearling weights up.  They are big cows.