Texas girls basketball 100-0

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farmboy

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what do you guys think of this.

i think its complete and utter bull. the girls got beat by a 100 points. its a competition. the winning team now wants to forfeit !?!? come on. they won the game fair and square. if i was the coach my head wouldnt be able to fit through the door. the losers have somethings to work on now. DONT FORFEIT BECAUSE YOU WON.

-zach
 

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They should have went a little easier on them once they got ahead. All that did was made the coach look like an A$$. Now he is embarrassed, and trying to save his reputation by forfitting. The couch should be ashamed!
 

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I hope the coach didn't leave his starting five in for the whole game.  Looks to me like it would be an excellent time to give some of your younger players a chance to play.  Maybe the entire second and fourth quarter.
 

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I read about it and I thought it was a little harsh. The winning continually full-court pressed and shot 3's like no other. It said at half-time the score was 59-0. I dont see any point in running up the score like that and humiliating the other team..
 

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And the kicker is I believe it was a Christian school that ran up the score...
 

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This game was just played out in bad taste.  Back when I was a baller we at least had mercy on teams that we would roll over.  We were also thankful when teams were rolling on us showed a little mercy as well. ;D
 

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A school with 20 girls in it doesn't need a varsity bball team

and they shouldn't schedule teams like this.


 

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THe team that lost was indeed a private school of learning disabilies girls. And indeed, their entire school has only 20 girls.
You want to know what I think? I think that the "losing team" is actually the winners. They didn't quit (stay home). They didn't whine about the officals (or judges). They played as hard as they could (didn't hire someone to do it for them) and they remain optimistic (not hanging their heads singing the "o woe is me" song).
And we call them LOSERS???? I don't think so.

As for the winning team. Once the score was so lop sided they should have backed off and allowed younger kids to play, maybe even "gave" the other team a break. But why? If you have an unbeatable heifer or steer, do you "stay home" so others can win? Do you not clip and fit at a show to allow others an opportunity?  At an auction, after you buy the first several head that you want, do you stop bidding to allow someone else a "chance".  So don't point fingers unless you are willing to back off and "allow others an opportunity".  I am sure you have many excuses as to why my comparison is "not right' or "not accurate", but it is. The problem is, the comparison involved YOU and YOUR ego and that makes all the difference in the world now doesn't it.


Summary:  Hey "LOSERS" - it is teams and people like you that give me a glimmer of hope for humanity in the future. Keep trying, keep working hard. You will be rewarded!!!!  (clapping)
 

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Show Heifer said:
As for the winning team. Once the score was so lop sided they should have backed off and allowed younger kids to play, maybe even "gave" the other team a break. But why? If you have an unbeatable heifer or steer, do you "stay home" so others can win? Do you not clip and fit at a show to allow others an opportunity?  At an auction, after you buy the first several head that you want, do you stop bidding to allow someone else a "chance".  So don't point fingers unless you are willing to back off and "allow others an opportunity".  I am sure you have many excuses as to why my comparison is "not right' or "not accurate", but it is. The problem is, the comparison involved YOU and YOUR ego and that makes all the difference in the world now doesn't it.

Well I see what you are saying but I guess my argument to this is you can win and still be humble.  We have had some cattle do well but we also try to help other people along the way.  I believe that helping other people is an opportunity for them to improve management of cattle.  There is nothing helpful about a 100-0 win.  I don't know where you draw the line.....70-0 still seems bad.  It wasn't the score that bothered me so much as the full court press and the assistant coach cheering wildly as the team was approaching 100.    I do agree that it says alot about the character of these girls to keep going and this is exactly why they should have a varsity basketball team.
 

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Well, I am a basketball coach in Texas.  I must say, this is a bad situation all the way around.  If I were the "winning" coach....I don't run the score up....that is BAD sportsmanship and character.  I've been in this situation....we were up 28-0 at half (of a 7th. grade game) and we won 49-9. I called the dogs off  and made my boys get 7-8 passes before a shot.  My guys don't (in my eyes) get ANY benefit of blowing someone out of the water.  I would be P*$$ed off to no end, if I were the "losing" coach.  I get ticked by a 20 point loss....could you imagine if I got beat by 100?  Holy cow!  Now, do I think that the winning team should forfeit?...No(the damage is done and this would only add more)...do I think the losing team should hold their heads high...you bet ya! 
 

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i would take a 40 point loss over a 1 point loss anyday.... state semi finals 3...2...1... ANANGHH our boys team get beat on a last second three without a hope in the state semi finals  :-\ 2 years later though we went all the way  (clapping)
 

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ach says he's not sorry for 100-point win

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DALLAS — The coach of a Texas high school basketball team that beat another team 100-0 sent an e-mail to a newspaper saying he will not apologize "for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity."

On its Web site last week, the Covenant School of Dallas, a private Christian school, posted a statement regretting the outcome of its Jan. 13 shutout win over Dallas Academy. "It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened. This clearly does not reflect a Christlike and honorable approach to competition," said the statement, signed by Kyle Queal, head of school, and board chair Todd Doshier.

Covenant coach Micah Grimes, who has been criticized for letting the game get so far out of hand, made it clear in the e-mail Sunday to The Dallas Morning News that he does not agree with his school's assessment.

"In response to the statement posted on The Covenant School Web site, I do not agree with the apology or the notion that the Covenant School girls basketball team should feel embarrassed or ashamed," Grimes wrote in the e-mail, according to the newspaper. "We played the game as it was meant to be played. My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity."

A phone number for Grimes could not be located by The Associated Press. The Dallas Morning News said Grimes did not respond to their repeated e-mail requests for a telephone interview.

Queal did not immediately return a phone message left at his home Sunday afternoon by the AP. There was no answer at a number listed for Doshier.

A parent who attended the game said Covenant continued to make 3-pointers— even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.

Covenant was up 59-0 at halftime.

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

There is no mercy rule in girls basketball that shortens the game or permits the clock to continue running when scores become one-sided. There is, however, "a golden rule" that should have applied in this contest, said Edd Burleson, the director of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, said last week. Both schools are members of this association, which oversees private school athletics in Texas.

The story has received national attention, and the Dallas Academy team has been recognized for refusing to give up during the lopsided contest.
 

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Our highschool girls are very good. This yeah the girls in my grade,freshman, went to like 3 camps all over the US. like the whole team went. I can understand when they are whoping another team to put int he sencond string, which we dont have really, but cmon dont quit. it dont teach the other team anything. i played sports and we got creamed in football all the time. seriulsy our freshman football team for whoped 42-0. IN FOOT BALL. thats why i didnt play but anyhow. its a game not life so let it continue and not back down. just my opion
 

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basketball is a game in the first place. people shouldn't make it into something it isn't. take the loss and move on.
 

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The coach may not have been sorry for the lopsided victory, but I bet he wishes he had been a little bit more sympathetic.  KARMA got him on this one.



DALLAS — The coach of a Texas high school basketball team that beat another team 100-0 was fired Sunday, the same day he sent an e-mail to a newspaper saying he will not apologize "for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity."

Kyle Queal, the headmaster for Covenant School, said in The Dallas Morning News online edition that he could not answer if the firing was a direct result of coach Micah Grimes' e-mail disagreeing with administrators who called the blowout "shameful."

Queal did not immediately answer phone messages or e-mail from The Associated Press.

On its Web site last week, Covenant, a private Christian school, posted a statement regretting the outcome of its Jan. 13 shutout win over Dallas Academy. "It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened. This clearly does not reflect a Christlike and honorable approach to competition," said the statement, signed by Queal and board chair Todd Doshier.

Grimes, who has been criticized for letting the game get so far out of hand, made it clear in the e-mail Sunday to the newspaper that he does not agree with his school's assessment.

"In response to the statement posted on The Covenant School Web site, I do not agree with the apology or the notion that the Covenant School girls basketball team should feel embarrassed or ashamed," Grimes wrote in the e-mail, according to the newspaper. "We played the game as it was meant to be played. My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity."

A phone number for Grimes could not be located by The Associated Press. The Dallas Morning News said Grimes did not respond to their repeated e-mail requests for a telephone interview.

There was no answer at a number listed for Doshier.

A parent who attended the game said Covenant continued to make 3-pointers— even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.

Covenant was up 59-0 at halftime.

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

There is no mercy rule in girls basketball that shortens the game or permits the clock to continue running when scores become one-sided. There is, however, "a golden rule" that should have applied in this contest, Edd Burleson, the director of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, said last week. Both schools are members of this association, which oversees private school athletics in Texas.

The story has received national attention, and the Dallas Academy team has been recognized for refusing to give up during the lopsided contest.
 

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I have no problem beeting a team in a lopsided score or continuing to score, I do thank that if you are up 59-0 at half time you don't take a shot until the shot- clock is just about out. you can still maintain your shutout just try and burn up the clock. I have seen Highschool football teams go to a ground game once they have a substantial lead, but if the back gets free he still tries to score. You don't quit just change your approach, substitute, pass the ball, spread it around and shoot with seconds left on the clock. I did read in one article that even the girls from the loosing team started to get exited when the other team neared 100 points.
 

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I played (and rode the sideline) for a very good, small school (Class 2A)  high school football team in Texas in the late 80s.  And we never ran the score up like that on anyone.  A little sportsmanship goes a long ways in teaching your team how to win gracefully also.  That was just cruel.  It would have been pretty easy to let the other team score a little.

I wish the story I saw on one of the network news programs about the (autistic I think) kid that was included on a basketball team.  He could shoot the ball pretty well and the other teams cooperated when he was on the floor.  It was pretty evident that both teams had a wonderful time, didn't interfere with their overall game, and was a great example of how to be competetive and great sports also.  I don't remember the exact particulars, but it was a pretty moving story.  They need to make that coach watch that story.
 
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