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UnbridledStallion

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JLH007 said:
Tallcool, you are correct in that all 3 of these compounds are classified as non-steroidal stimulants and beta-2 agonists. Unbridled Stallion is also right in that Clenbuterol has a longer half life in the body than the other two.  Optaflexx actually has the shortest half life at approx. 4 hours and Zilmax is in between. Clenbuterol is only approved for respiratory therapy in horses since it is a bronchodilator.  I don't believe it is approved for any other uses in livestock in the U.S.  I'm also fairly certain that in the past Clenbuterol has been associated with significant damage to heart tissue.  It was likely given to show steers years ago for the same reason many desire to use Zilmax and Optaflexx in that all of them increase lean muscle tissue at the expense of fat cells. I'm a big proponent of integrity in the show ring and in life, and if folks use an illegal or banned substance to artificially improve the appearance of an animal then they need to be willing to face whatever consequences come their way. None of these products should be used in young, growing animals which are still depositing accelerated amounts of protein/muscle.  Even many of the feedyards I know that used Zilmax or currently use Optaflexx still base use of the beta agonist on body condition of the calf in that a thin or calf lacking cover will not receive the product.

Unbridled Stallion, all I can tell you is that Zilmax had a more obvious effect on both live animals and carcasses in enhancing musculature.  It's also known as a more aggressive re-partitioning agent than Optaflexx anyways, so this is not surprising.  In industry circles, it is also common knowledge that it was very easy to "screw" a calf up as well if he was not a good candidate for Zilmax to start with.
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Is it true that paylean will cause more noticeable muscles on pigs then optaflexx will on cattle? What about a paylean pig vs a zilmax steer? Also is it possible that these drugs could make carnivores more muscular? 
 
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knabe said:
A high starch diet is artificial.
I'm probably going to get banned and labeled a troll for saying this but the true reason why I made this topic was because I have a "strong affinity" for muscular animals especially wild masculine ones like wolves, jaguars, hyenas, bears, and equines.

I thought you guys could provide me nice images of ripped cattle but it turns out the stuff I'm seeking is more experimental/cost prohibitive:
This sheep was given an extra growth hormone:
http://www.scienceimage.csiro.au/tag/transgenic-animals/i/2294/a-normal-sized-control-sheep-left-and-transgenic-sheep-right-/
 

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I'm probably going to get banned and labeled a troll for saying this but the true reason why I made this topic was because I have a "strong affinity" for muscular animals especially wild masculine ones like wolves, jaguars, hyenas, bears, and equines.

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Does "strong affinity" = weird fetish.

This topic is getting kind of creepy. (lol)
 

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I'm probably going to get banned and labeled a troll for saying this but the true reason why I made this topic was because I have a "strong affinity" for muscular animals especially wild masculine ones like wolves, jaguars, hyenas, bears, and equines.

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Does "strong affinity" = weird fetish.

This topic is getting kind of creepy. (lol)
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WAY CREEPY!!
 

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My favorite animal is pretty much a Liger.  Its a cross between a lion and a tiger.  If there was a genetically modified Liger on steroids, that would be freaking awsome.
 
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JLH007 said:
Unbridled Stallion, the answers to your questions are yes, yes and yes.
Excellent thank you JLH. Really nice to know.

IHow about a genetically modified "Zilmaxed" Liger on steroids.
For anyone that doesn't know what a Liger its the off spring of a male lion and female tiger.
These can be massive weighing in at 1000 pounds. There skull is like twice the size of a lions.
ABC Nightline - Featuring Hercules the Liger
I'm definitely going to get one once I can afford the proper place and insurance (I mean if the guy in this video can have a tiger in his bed why can't I:
Tiger in bed
 
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Mtnman said:
Where's the Heffalump????
I have no idea what that means. Edit haha funny. But seriously I envy all you cattle producers because you are able to "muscle up" cattle. Also if anyone has more info on equipoise or better yet before and after pictures of horses on equipoise that would be great. Or bovine/equine growth hormone. I want to create the ultimate muscled up beast.
 
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Tallcool1 said:
I'm probably going to get banned and labeled a troll for saying this but the true reason why I made this topic was because I have a "strong affinity" for muscular animals especially wild masculine ones like wolves, jaguars, hyenas, bears, and equines.

Does "strong affinity" = weird fetish.

This topic is getting kind of creepy. (lol)
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WAY CREEPY!!
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Let's just say all my dreams involve Tigers, Lions, Snow Leopards and the like but never humans.
 

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If that's your goal, you just need to look at double-muscled breeds, like Belgian Blue, Piedmontese.
The trait also exists in other breeds, but is not considered a genetic defect in those two...
Pretty sure no Zilmax/Optaflex-fed animals ever achieve that appearance.
 
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LLBUX said:
Time to say goodbye to Unbridled Stallion.

You have crossed the line.
Well I found out, what I wanted to find out about "muscling agents" so I wouldn't feel too bad if I got banned.
 
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