A little gun history

[Doc]

Had somebody e-mail me this & thought it was interesting!




A LITTLE GUN HISTORY 

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.  From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of
13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935.  From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1 981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970.  From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
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It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender (involuntary buy back) 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in: List of 7 items:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.  Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY.

Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns.  The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'.

Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.

People ask me why I carry a 45 caliber.  My answer . . . .  'Because they don't make a 46 calibers!

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

Doc - From a non Short Horn breeder, this is my favorite post by you that I have read.

 

[AAOK]

Great one Doc.  It's kind of scary what's happening in this great land of ours.  I sold my UZI a couple of years ago, but still have enough Shotguns to arm the whole family.  I just pray we can keeps the Dems out of the White House.

 

[kanshow]

That's a good one Doc. 

 

[Show Dad]

It's just like raising taxes, gun control just increases the pain of the individual not their freedom.

 

[shorthorns r us]

No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session

 

[Show Dad]

SRU - Spot on! You are my kind of CPA! (thumbsup)

 

[cattlejunky]

I wonder when Mexico will start gun control?  I know that was BAD!!!  We are lifetime members of the NRA.  I know we would be hiding our guns somewhere if gun control ever went into effect.  After some of our recent problems I think I am going to get a handgun permit. 

 

[sawboss]

My wife and I are both licensed concealed handgun carriers, our boys are members of the 4-H shooting team and avid hunters.  Guns are a big part of our life and recreation time, and are respected for their capabilities for causing harm if mishandled.  The numbers posted in the article are representative of countries that fear the law abiding citizens more than they fear the criminals, hence they have crippled the balance in favor for the criminal.  I truly believe that predators look for the easy target to prey upon.  I hope and pray I never have to defend myself or family with a firearm, but I promise you the big man in the F-250 would not hesitate to do so.  Without this balance of criminals wondering is that person armed we all become the hunted.

 

[chambero]

I love guns and hunting, but I detest the NRA.  Too many calls wanting me to donate money back in the day when I didn't have much that ended in "I guess you aren't a real American." when I refuse.  They need better messengers for a long time before I'll change my opinion.

There isn't a serious threat to gun ownership in this country and won't be for a while.  That threat will come when people don't care if they still own guns.  That happens when the common person doesn't hunt anymore - which is on the way.

Our hunting system is rapidly turning into the European model - only for the very wealthy.  And a lot of us cattle ranchers are too blame.  We chase the money on hunting leases which winds up being rich old men or their sons.  There are too many good kids whose parents really can't afford to take them hunting anymore.  This is an issue that really worries me and is one of my hot buttons.  We don't lease our land for hunting because we like to do too much of it ourself, but I'm pretty much a sucker to take folks I like -especially if they have kids.  I wish more people would take that approach, or we will have something to really worry about in 50 years.

 

[Dusty]

I love guns and hunting, but I detest the NRA.  Too many calls wanting me to donate money back in the day when I didn't have much that ended in "I guess you aren't a real American." when I refuse.  They need better messengers for a long time before I'll change my opinion.

There isn't a serious threat to gun ownership in this country and won't be for a while.  That threat will come when people don't care if they still own guns.  That happens when the common person doesn't hunt anymore - which is on the way.

Our hunting system is rapidly turning into the European model - only for the very wealthy.  And a lot of us cattle ranchers are too blame.  We chase the money on hunting leases which winds up being rich old men or their sons.  There are too many good kids whose parents really can't afford to take them hunting anymore.  This is an issue that really worries me and is one of my hot buttons.  We don't lease our land for hunting because we like to do too much of it ourself, but I'm pretty much a sucker to take folks I like -especially if they have kids.  I wish more people would take that approach, or we will have something to really worry about in 50 years.

What about when the state charges you $50 to shoot a deer.  I like how the farmer's land and crops sustain the deer year around and then you have to pay the state to shoot one.  The state owns the deer until it comes to time for feed, or when you hit one with your car.  As far as I'm concerned anyone who wants to should be able to shoot at least 5 deer every year for free.  If you are eating them you should have a continous open season.  After all deer are on this earth for the same reason cattle are.  For us to eat.  In Iowa deer are like rats, they're everywhere and are getting out of control.  But, if you shoot one out of season it is worse than killing a person.... Figure that one out...  There should be a bounty on them..

The idea of people leasing ground to hunt on is ridiculous to me, but where I grew up we were locals so we could basically hunt anywhere we wanted for free.  Leasing hunting wasn't even heard of.  We allowed anyone who wanted to hunt our ground, and we hunted other peoples' ground.  Thats just how it worked.

When i was younger we literally hunted almost every day in the winter time.  And in the fall you always had a gun with you in case you saw a coyote, fox, etc....  When i was in high school and we had a two hour late start because of the weather, that always mean't my brothers and I could do a little hunting before we had to go to school that day.  Although you did get a few looks when people saw blood dripping out and dead critters in the back of your truck in the parking lot.  I always wondered how that would go over in other parts of the country...

 

[red]

wow, they've upped the number in Ohio you can shoot. I think they just charge license.

Red

 

[bradycreek]

Chambero,
I agree It used to be easy to get permission to hunt around here. Now its getting next to impossible unless you know someone especially for turkey or deer. I used to travel to Kansas to hunt pheasant but each year I got told more and more our land has been leased this year. We do not lease our land and do have several neighbors hunt on us but as more and more land becomes unavalibale more and more people are asking for permission and sadly I have to say no which I hate but our land will only hold so many deer or turkey hunters before it becomes unsafe.
gun control is started here in the US and once it starts then it is tough to stop.
don

 

[knabe]

I love guns and hunting, but I detest the NRA.  Too many calls wanting me to donate money back in the day when I didn't have much that ended in "I guess you aren't a real American." when I refuse.  They need better messengers for a long time before I'll change my opinion.

i have the same opinion about when the police call asking for money.  to me, they are the most offensive.

i support gun rights by spending money on guns and ammo, reloading, going to the range.

our entire society is changing into a two tiered society, just like lenin, mussoline, hitler, wilson, fdr imagined, with the enlightened at the top.

latest best slogan  "we are going to transform america, we are going to transform the world."  by the same methods as before.  one only has to look up the thought police fdr had to see that it's possible.  america is too consumed by consumerism to notice it's almost gone.

government is the hardest inertia to stop.

remember the gun with the twisted barrel at the doorstep of the greatest gun dreaming grabber of all, the UN.

 

[sawboss]

Amen, Chambero!  I received the same nasty phone calls and letters on behave of LaPierre (Sp.) that really turned me off.  Thanks again for allowing my youngest and myself to share a stand with you for two enjoyable hunts.  You have to bring those boys down the catfish are in high gear.

 

[chambero]

Finding places to hunt has always been about who you know and nobody can let everyone go that shows up on their doorstep. 

I forget that some of this may be a little foreign to some of you folks "up north", but we aren't talking about $50 deer tags down here (or the $450 nonresident elk tags I buy each year somewhere in a western state), we are talking at a minimum a FEW THOUSAND dollars down here to get to go shoot a deer - and then they are small ones.  Hunting leases down here for very average places run $10-12 acre with a person having to spend at least $1500 or so to have a place to go.  A lot of deer down here are "ranched" and hunts cost $20,000+ for truly big deer.  Too my dismay, we aren't talking just a few people either.  We are talking lots and lots.  Makes those show steers seem like good investments.

Probably 80% of the land that is bought down here isn't bought by ranchers - its bought by city hunters.  Statewide.  Cattle are pests that are just used for cheap "vegetation management" tools.

Most middle class folks can afford a hunting trip that costs a few hundred dollars altogether - its the few thousand that makes too many kids have to stay home.

 

[red]

wow! our deer are fat corn/bean fed beast! you see at least 1 a day driving. Herds of 15 along the side of the road. I bet zach has it even worse.

Wild turkeys making a comeback too. Lots of set aside ground here.

Red

 

[knabe]

we need a zebra mussel hunt.  if we can make the passenger pigeon go extinct, we should be able to make them extinct here as well.  granted, reproduction is a little different.  we just had some located in our fresh water supply for the bay area and everyone is panicked.

 

[red]

we need a zebra mussel hunt.  if we can make the passenger pigeon go extinct, we should be able to make them extinct here as well.  granted, reproduction is a little different.  we just had some located in our fresh water supply for the bay area and everyone is panicked.

they've taken over the Great Lakes. Nasty things, come in off  boats from other waters.

Red

 

[Dusty]

wow! our deer are fat corn/bean fed beast! you see at least 1 a day driving. Herds of 15 along the side of the road. I bet zach has it even worse.

Wild turkeys making a comeback too. Lots of set aside ground here.

Red

I've seen groups of more than a hundred deer together before.  When it gets cold 50 is about the average group size.  It is just hard for me to contemplate spending a few thousand dollars just to be able to see a deer and be able to shoot it.  

Deer hunting where i grew up consisted of waking up, doing chores, go out and scare up some deer, shoot a few, go to town and get dinner, have a beer or two, go out that afternoon if someone needs to fill a tag, shoot some more, go home and do chores, butcher deer and drink beer that night in the machine shed.  I usually kept an extra tag back in case I saw one that needed shot while i was driving around.  Except for opening day, we didn't really ever devote an entire day to deer hunting.  Deer hunting was just kind of an extracurricular activity in the winter time.  It's still pretty much that way where I grew up.  But like I said the deer are everywhere...