Launter Bulls 2010

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Throttle

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OH Breeder said:
BCCC said:
What'd you think of trading favors? I guess I never seen him :'( Have a couple cows I think Trading Favors, Thriller, and I-80 could be neat on

I-80 has an odd head shape. Maybe just me. But that is something I always look at as well.

Think Thriller has some noggin issues as well, course headed, bit of roman look
 

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That was the only thing I could see wrong with uno mas was that he had a larger head. Here is a story I had to laugh at. We were down in denver talking to some freinds that are registered angus people but their son who is 9 wants to breed some cows clubby and that kid is very involved with his cattle. So his dad caves in and says," ok, you can breed 5 of our cows clubby but when they calve and have to have c-sections your gonna be out in the barn helping and I don't care if it is a school night or anything" the dad thinking he would show him that it is easier to buy them than raise them. So the 9 year-old was looking through the pen bulls and lets just say he was trying to find out as much info as possible about every one of the bulls. And he finally decided on one bull, uno mas, but he really could'nt tell if he was gonna work cause he had a bigger head. So the 9 year-old went right up to Matt lautner and said, "Is that bulls calves gonna have as big of head as that bull? Cause my dad says if they do then they are gonna have to be pulled and he says I have to help." And they said lautner look at him like, what the hell. They the dad was over there like "yep thats my kid". lol I had to laugh when I heard that one
 

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They look as good as you can make'em...which is exactly what I dont like about them.
1. They have been on feed their entire life
2. Trimmed to the hilt
3. Photoshopped till perfect

Its hard to tell what lies under the hair, as well as what kind of wheels they are riding on, but great looking pictures none-the-less
agreed
 

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Uno mas was stout but very short fronted, only way i could describe it, looks like he ran into a wall. He did have a neck sweat on back in the pens at night. Texas twister was stout but couldnt walk to save his life, to me his structure is his best asset to the clubcalf world because he wont last long enough to really screw up some good cattle.
 

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Uno was not very big when he was born. He sure was cool looking.
 

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I doubt Phil's new bull crop every year as much as anyone.  I was at Hawkeye in Iowa and saw Totally Tuned as a yearling.  He was a crippled dink and I would not have turned him in with my recips.. Fast forward 8 years and I saw him at Brent Toelles place on lease as and old bull, and he was sound and a nice mature size.  Not all of Phil's bulls turn out, but give them a chance.
 

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Saw i80 in des moines anteater headed pencil necked and shallow but hairy

Couldve ben stouter ton imo
 

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I know its been said before but: You have to remember the bulls have been fitted and clipped to a T and the pictures are probaly if not undoubtedly shopped. You need to see these bulls in person to and see what they throw to know if they are any good or not. If you are into using new bulls then you should at least see them in person or listen to a trusted friends opinion. The fact that some say these bulls are just "ok" or already have structure problems or they werent that impressed  gives me the same integrity to use these bulls as it does a goat. just my opinion...But I didnt see them in person either.


But I'll have to admit, I didnt make denver, but they look good in the pictures .
 

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heard this I-80 bulls is the real deal along with mercedez benz to make heifers!
 

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WFCC said:
heard this I-80 bulls is the real deal along with mercedez benz to make heifers!

  I kinda hate to say this, but how the heck could I-80 be the real deal to make heifers when he hasn't even made one straw of good juice yet? I'll admit that his pedigree may point in that direction, but I don't think we really know whether or not Ali or Hard Drive are going to make great cows yet. They are just getting to where we can make a true evaluation.
  I-80 IMO doesn't look anything like his pedigree would make you think he would look like.
 

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acutally i dont think you know but I-80 is producing semen. talked to bushy parks and they said that early freezeable semen means good quality along with good maternal gentics! so your saying that bushy parks cow man dont know what he is talkin bout? And any new bull is used based upon the pedigree and seeing them in person! he has the POTENTIAL to make good females.
 

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Theres a big difference between early fertility and being maternal .Do you have a study that shows bulls that semen freezes early have daughters with higher weaning weights?
 

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WFCC said:
acutally i dont think you know but I-80 is producing semen. talked to bushy parks and they said that early freezeable semen means good quality along with good maternal gentics! so your saying that bushy parks cow man dont know what he is talkin bout? And any new bull is used based upon the pedigree and seeing them in person! he has the POTENTIAL to make good females.
  No I didn't say that anyone didn't know what they were talking about. At the time that I saw I-80, which was Feb.21st loading up into Phil Lautner's trl, he had not produced any semen, & IMO it's hard to predict a yearling bull's future daughters maternal abilities when we don't have a real good measure yet of the daughters of the paternal sire's daughters or the maternal grand sire's daughters yet. They are just coming into their best years. I also think that I said that I-80 doesn't look like his pedigree may indicate. That's not saying a bad thing, it's saying that he is different looking than I thought that he would look. I actually like the bull & think that there are places that he may work very well & do things that other bulls won't be able to get done, ie., a cow changer. You are correct, he has the
" POTENTIAL" to make good females. I am personally going to wait, but am watching and hoping for great things out of I-80. Brent
 

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mooch said:
Theres a big difference between early fertility and being maternal .Do you have a study that shows bulls that semen freezes early have daughters with higher weaning weights?
There has been studies and it is well documented that scrotal circumference has a direct correlation to pelvic area in a bulls daughters.  In turn that does typically translate to more maternal traits from large scrotum bulls (usually produce good semen sooner).
 

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I still dont see how a bull that is a GUTLESS wonder HIMSELF is going to produce hiefers with any maternal value ie capacity let alone make feed efficient cattle when he appears that the only reason hes fat is that someone had to break the bank to feed him and people wonder why clubby cows dont milk who are we kidding now
 

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Hollywood27 said:
mooch said:
Theres a big difference between early fertility and being maternal .Do you have a study that shows bulls that semen freezes early have daughters with higher weaning weights?
There has been studies and it is well documented that scrotal circumference has a direct correlation to pelvic area in a bulls daughters.  In turn that does typically translate to more maternal traits from large scrotum bulls (usually produce good semen sooner).

That dosen't answer the question . it has no correlation to milk and daughters progeny weaning weights.
 
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